Am Sonntag, 26. Februar 2006 23:58 schrieb Eberhard Moenkeberg:
Hi,
On Sun, 26 Feb 2006, Wolfgang Koller wrote:
As maybe some of you I was at the FOSDEM too. I hade the pleasure to meet the openSUSE staff and can just say that they are at least as friendly as they are over IRC :). But now enough of the honey, here are some conclusions to the things I heard at the FOSDEM:
.) Forums: The never ending story. At the FOSDEM it was announced that there will be an official forum (I hope I can say that here, but as you said it in public at the FOSDEM I assume it is ready to be heard by anyone).
Did "they"? Who did it? The future official full-time moderators, or some of our childs which still have to learn thinking by walking and falling onto the nose?
Well they said that they of course want the community to be part of it. Actually I'm glad that there is finally a decision, and we will see how it works out. It is more important that we all work together on bringing our communities closer together than arguing about who has the best community or who hasn't.
Although I'm not too happy with that decision I can somehow understand it, at least it will bring the discussion to a rest (and IMO there wouldn't have been a solution everyone is happy with anyway). The only thing I do not really like is that you told us to host a discussion at our board (suselinuxsupport.de) but then suddenly decided that there will be web-forums - next time maybe tell us straight-forward what is planned :). Anyway that's it from me on topic forums.
I bet this was a lonely coup of some of our fellows who think that they are 100% able to configure a forum software. Maybe we should really throw them into the cold water they have filled in - if they have.
I don't think it was like an easy decision for them, during the talks with them I had the feeling that it wasn't that easy for them either. I mean I see their point that they want something like a more close web-community, but on the other hand I see the point that they can't "bless" one community to be the official one. And of course I also see the point that no existing community want to give up their work.
.) Houghi's XML-Yast repository idea: Unfortunately you weren't there today in the evening when I wanted to talk with you. I think this is actually a great idea, and even though the openSUSE staff is a bit worried about legal issues I think this could be easily done using a YaST module (yes I heard the YaST module tutorial too :)). I think the best way to make this easy to distribute is to let a community member do it and then just include it. The argument that it might be abused for including repositories with illegal content is nonsene IMO - just because it CAN be abused it isn't illegal, because else you wouldn't be able to include webbrowser too, since those can be used for downloading illegal software too :). For those who weren't there at the FOSDEM and have no clue what I'm talking about - don't worry houghi will setup a wiki page soon :).
One should not expose his kitchen knifes to the children, but keep the children out of the kitchen. ;-))
.) Build-Service: I think the build service is definately a great idea . I was really impressed by what it can do so far - but yet there is more to come :). For me as a software developer this will definately help to provide more up to date RPMs for various distributions. Here is my only comment: keep up the great work and gimme an account to start producing RPMs :).
As I understand it, it will be only a build service, not a hosting service. Hosting happens at ftp.gwdg.de currently, and that shall continue and grow.
I see - well then I will just constantly bother you for hosting my packages :).
.) General comment: actually all talks were really great, the content was well selected and there was almost no boring talk to here - next time just don't be that nervous - we won't bite you - there is really no need to be nervous :)
Right now I can't think of anything else to comment on :).
Special thanks also go to Pascal, he was always very friendly and helpful - yes and of course to the openSUSE staff - who made the FOSDEM weekend really a very nice experience for me :).
Mfg, Wolfgang Koller alias Viras
PS: I'm an Admin at suselinuxsupport.de, I mention that so that I don't get flamed :)
Cheers -e
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