Tue, 03 Jan 2006, by suse-list@bout-tyme.net:
On Tue, 2006-01-03 at 08:21 -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Ken Schneider
[01-02-06 23:31]: I can see the dynamic IP's being blacklisted for an ISP but not the static used for the email servers for that ISP. After all the ISP has no control over the users that fail to keep their PC's secure.
That's a bad rap. And an ISP certainly has control over errant users. It's called 'Cutting off service'. The ISP's just fail in their responsibility. You (at least in all of my experiences) agree to a usage form to get service and that form designates a loss of service for varying from their (ISP's) rules.
If ISP's shut down all of the errant users that did not keep their PC's up to date for virii, worms and bugs they would have to shutdown perhaps over 50% of their customers. Do you really think a company would do
My ISP does exactly that: as soon as they find out someone's spewing shite they cut the connection off, leaving only the webmail where an email is waiting with explanation and conditions for re-connect. Most of the time a site is cut-off within hours of abuse.
that. It is out of control and the best that ISP's can do today is install the hardware/software to protect the users who use their service. Earthlink has done some of this by using a product called "Spamblocker" which blocks -ALL- email unless the person is in my address book. If I want to look for other email I can look in my "suspect" folder using the web interface and add people to my address book as needed. If -all- ISP's used something like this it would cut out perhaps 90% or more of the spam going around today.
I'm very pleased my ISP has a better understanding of howto keep the huns from taking over. Theo -- Theo v. Werkhoven Registered Linux user# 99872 http://counter.li.org ICBM 52 13 26N , 4 29 47E. + ICQ: 277217131 SUSE 9.2 + Jabber: muadib@jabber.xs4all.nl Kernel 2.6.8 + See headers for PGP/GPG info. Claimer: any email I receive will become my property. Disclaimers do not apply.