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On Monday 23 January 2006 16:54, Randall R Schulz wrote:
> Yo, Tribey,
>
> On Monday 23 January 2006 15:57, Joe Morris (NTM) wrote:
> > Randall R Schulz wrote:
> > > ...
> > >
> > > I have not been hypocritical.
> >
> > When you accuse others of doing what you are yourself doing, I
> > believe hypocritical is an accurate description.
>
> I deal in facts and science. Religion is the antithesis. How can all the
> world's religions be in any way valid, when they all claim truth yet
> are utterly inconsistent with one another.
>
> If you want to call me names because I refuse to engage in the
> foolishness called faith, then call me an atheist.
>
> I have no religion. I've heard this inane argument many times before.
> The religious are so steeped in their self-created world of myth that
> they cannot accept that there are people who do not subscribe to a
> religion.
>
> Science is in no way a religion. It has no dogma. Things are only held
> to be true until a better, more all-encompassing or more accurate
> understanding supplants the older knowledge.
>
> Religion is dogma-laden and cannot grow beyond itself. If science
> operated that way, we'd not have anything like the technology that is
> conveying my words to you now.
>
> > --
> > Joe Morris
>
> Randall Schulz
> --
> Did you hear? Pascal is in hell. It's a sin to gamble.
Yo, Randal,
There is plenty of uncertainty in science. We have *many* theories (not 
facts!) to explain some of the most basic things in nature and occasionally 
an experiment gives credence to one over the others, thus creating a new 
advance and a new dogma in that discipline, with nothing more than a few 
scant bits of evidence. If that's not uncertainty, please enlighten me as to 
what is. Also, please don't forget "the uncertainty principle", used 
extensively in the "upper" echelons of science and explicitely stating the 
inability of human science to go beyond certain boundaries with certainty and 
no, that is not a play on words...
One might even say that there is a lot of religion in science, many of the top 
scientists spend their life trying to prove their basic beliefs...
My own personal take is that the true GOD willed the big bang and all the 
science in all the universes of the universe, and, just to piss off all the 
"intelligent design" fanatics, GOD willed the theory of evolution on our 
tiny, insignificant corner of the universe and probably on quite a few other 
planets, almost as insignificant as ours. The true GOD is infinitely more 
infinite than organized religions would have you believe, their basic purpose 
is self preservation through people control, so they abuse the scriptures, 
make GOD in the image of man and use fear as their basic tool.
True religion and true faith in the real GOD is much more abstract than any 
organized religion can ever offer to mankind. One can only hope that one day 
this truth travels throughout our world and catches root. If this happens, 
then Allah, Jesus, God, Buddah etc all become one essense of one mind of one 
GOD and....peace breaks out....
Do you think that the politicians and the priests will ever allow a chance for 
that to happen? 
Dimitris