Many times over I hear or see something like... "you should try foo, it's a really easy way to make your desktop dance to your tune" Be sure you have Python AND QT installed ; and I believe, if memory serves , the QT is something specifically tied to Python, or the other way around. Truth to say; I may not have the specifics on the Qt module because my brain is misfiring today.. <sigh> Migraines would be a heckova weapon if only they could harness it. So the question arises, do these two work in concert so often ,they should be a part of my basic desktop setup. IT seems most especially the sorts of things former Windows users want on their desktops, as for instance, SuperKarumba.. I have heard , requires these items to be installed prior to installing the "Dancing Desktop" stuff... Would you guys care to discuss pros and cons of making the Python and QT stuff part of a default install for some types of users/computers. ( obviously we are talking about programs that *might* want to take a lot of resources..) It seems to me that if you have stuff updating constantly, it takes ram and proc cycles that could be allotted to something more work oriented. But if a person is mainly using a word processing program , possibly a "PowerPoint-like" program, or maybe websurfing for research... ???? For those efforts, most of our current boxes have enough power to do something other than wait for the next line of prose to hit the programs screens. -- j "You never know until you try It's hard to see which side your on Some people say your half way here Some people say your half way gone" song lyric