Hi, On Thursday, January 26, 2006 at 18:24:10, jdd wrote:
Henne Vogelsang wrote:
On Thursday, January 26, 2006 at 17:06:34, jdd wrote:
Henne Vogelsang wrote:
p.s. Thats one short minded thing i observe here everytime we have a discussion about something that involves setting something up / coding something / packaging something. Its soo easy to do, just get X from foo.org and do Y with it. Of course thats easy. Everybody knows that. But commiting longterm to a solution is something completely different! that's not fair.
Why is that?
who speaks of "short minded"
Well it is short minded or? Youre not thinking it trough. Hence short minded.
I dont want to write my own nntp like protocol and server/client to implement the hyperfast opensuse group with many new features and concepts.
there is nothing to write, the solution exists since a very long time now
Exactly my point! There exists a solution since a very long time and im not going to reinvent it.
the point is: do we want to have _our members_ in _our room_
when I buy shoes, I have all the products for the shoes in the same place, the vendor don't say: go there to find, if not I will go elsewhere.
Again comparing Apples and Oranges. To get opensuse mainlinglists over nntp it makes no significant difference if i connect my nntp client to news.opensuse.org or news.gmane.org.
I see a big one. gmane is a mess of dozen of newsgroups I have no concern with.
Why would that be a problem? If it is then you are using the wrong newsreader :) Every newsreader i know gets a list of groups on the news server, presents it to the user who can then choose the groups he wants to "subscribe" to. Most modern ones even allow a search in the grouplist (knode for instance).
I have nothing against gmane, but why not googles groups or others?
Why? gmane is in place, has already all lists from lists.suse.com indexed and is actually used by a lot of people. They have a straightforward subscription process and are very user friendly, require no authentification and are OSS centric. Sorry but gmane+nomail subscriptions in our mailinglists are the perfect solution and you fail to prove otherwise. Henne -- Henne Vogelsang, http://hennevogel.de "To die. In the rain. Alone." Ernest Hemingway