Mailinglist Archive: opensuse (4570 mails)

["Steven T. Hatton" <hattons@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Saturday 12 November 2005 07:22 pm, Anders Johansson wrote:
> On Sunday 13 November 2005 01:01, Steven T. Hatton wrote:
> > On Saturday 12 November 2005 03:00 pm, Steve Graegert wrote:
> > > What would be the rationale behind using C++ in .NET?
> >
> > C++/CLI is an ECMA standardization effort.
>
> Don't stare yourself blind at standards. The main issue is patents
>
> FWIW, I consider c++ to be one of the worst languages ever to not be
> designed. java in many ways is what C++ wanted to be, and with gcj's
> ability to compile to native code, it isn't that bad at performance

I'll have to disagree with you.  There are a few C features of C++ that 
Stroustrup says he would rather have foregone, but he states very clearly 
that Java is _not_ what he would have designed had it not been for C 
compatability.  C++ is a very carefully designed language.  It is not as easy 
to use as Java for a person who has not carefully studied it, but when you do 
learn C++, you can often express things very concisely and elegantly.

Java's answer to memory leaks is garbage collection. C++'s answer is RAII.  
RAII requires you to think about what you are doing at a more fundamental 
level.  That may take more work, but the end result is typically much better 
design.

You may want to look at _The Design and Evolution of C++_, by Bjarne 
Stroustrup.

Steven