On 11/17/05, jfweber@bellsouth.net
Ummm.. I did not need 600 hours to learn any inns and outs. I started off with Windows NT and then I had to work on a UNIX project. The people gave me a list of the basic commands, like ls, telnet, etc and quickly showned me how to use them.
right .. it's called experience. 600 hours is only 15 weeks of experience. I don't have a problem with it, and did not complain. What I orginally said was "stop calling names of linux newbies that rely/use the GUI on a server to get work done" It's that simple. I have liked the command line from for years ... it takes awhile to develop any real ease with it in linux cuz there are so many options and commands and switches. Again, not a complaint .. it just does. My whole thing is the attitude I see on this and other lists of people carping about "noobs that put a gui on a server" ... well, damn ... if it makes the transition and traslation to linux easier why, as a linux advocate, would you (not you personally) want to be so freaking hostile about it? That's the thing in it's entirety for me. I know I have a lot to learn, that's cool. I'm into it. In fact, I want the market to grow dramatically so that I have more and more reason to continue to work with linux in all it's flavors. I really want to get the linux terminal project setup for a couple customers that have legions of folks that do nothing but as400 sessions and email. The list goes on. Just don't piss on me (and my customers who turn to this and other lists as THEY are trying to learn linux) just cuz they rely on the GUI and want to get stuff done as easily as possible. It's just a simple comment, that got exploded into a ranting reply from mr ben because he mis-read the intention. Oh, well. Didn't really mean to have this happen, probably should have just dropped it after my first "congratulations" to Steven for not pissing on newbies. Out. peter