If you want to learn more then first what desktop are you using at the moment? I'm willing to bet that you may have both KDE and Gnome installed on your SuSE PC but are actually only using one and not bothering with the other. If you use Gnome then install Kubuntu on the other PC. If it KDE you have on the SuSE PC then go for Ubuntu. Obviously do not install the rival desktop as well. My reasoning for suggesting this is that first you are able to learn about a Debian system without all the bloat of the full blown Deb Sarge. Secondly, you also get to learn about a different desktop without being tempted to log into what is already nice and safe and familiar. Xandros has been mentioned and is a fantastic distro. But perhaps not so much if you want to really learn more being as you are obviously already quite experienced with SuSE. Just some ideas :-) -- ============================================== I am only human, please forgive me if I make a mistake it is not deliberate. ============================================== Take care. Kevan Farmer 34 Hill Street Cheslyn Hay Staffordshire WS6 7HR