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Re: [SLE] secondary distro's
- From: Vincente Aggrippino <vaggrippino@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 18:18:05 +0000 (UTC)
- Message-id: <65052ad90511201018m6ad3a3e3n5c7a565ea0c10aa4@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
On 11/16/05, lerninlinux@xxxxxxxxxxx <lerninlinux@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> I guess I should define playing! I am very happy with Suse, and switched
> to it from Mandrake (after that whole Linux Format bad cd fiasco). I am
> wanting to learn more about Linux in general, and get more comfortable with
> NONRPM based distro's. The reasons for my three choices were Gentoo makes me
> learn more about Linux's base (how to do things from scratch) and gives me
> experience with another "package manager" (emerge). Knoppix and Ubuntu
> teaches me about debian and apt. I am not comfortable enough now to switch
> from one to another, and would eventually like to be. I've been on Suse
> since 9.0 (just went 10) and it works and is stable, the only reason I
> still have a Windows machine is for the games.
I have used Fedora, Ubuntu, and Knoppix. I've used some Unix OSs, too. I'm
relatively new to SuSE.
I'll recommend a slightly less extreme first step... Pick one of your
favorite programs that you use on SuSE, or even one that you don't use yet,
and download the latest version in a tarball. Then compile it and make it
run from your home directory. That's a good start and it's a method that
works for all of the distros (I think).
>From what I have heard, you'll be doing a lot of compiling on Gentoo or
Slackware :)
For the ones that work as documented in the generic instructions, you can do
something like this and it'll all work:
./configure --prefix=/home/sloncho
make
make install
That often works, but the learning starts when it doesn't. If you get error
messages, read them carefully. They might look like junk, but they actually
mean something. They usually have file names and line numbers. Look up all
of the error messages in Google.
One of the biggest differences between the Linux world and that horrible
place without penguins is software installation. You don't usually install
programs on Linux in the same way. You compile them for your system. If
you're using an RPM, someone did the compiling for you on a system just like
yours. I've used Apt, Debian's (and Ubuntu's) package manager. I don't
really know how that works, but I believe the concept is similar. There's
not a lot to learn there... just click the check-boxes for the software you
want to install.
Have fun :)
-- Vince
>
> I guess I should define playing! I am very happy with Suse, and switched
> to it from Mandrake (after that whole Linux Format bad cd fiasco). I am
> wanting to learn more about Linux in general, and get more comfortable with
> NONRPM based distro's. The reasons for my three choices were Gentoo makes me
> learn more about Linux's base (how to do things from scratch) and gives me
> experience with another "package manager" (emerge). Knoppix and Ubuntu
> teaches me about debian and apt. I am not comfortable enough now to switch
> from one to another, and would eventually like to be. I've been on Suse
> since 9.0 (just went 10) and it works and is stable, the only reason I
> still have a Windows machine is for the games.
I have used Fedora, Ubuntu, and Knoppix. I've used some Unix OSs, too. I'm
relatively new to SuSE.
I'll recommend a slightly less extreme first step... Pick one of your
favorite programs that you use on SuSE, or even one that you don't use yet,
and download the latest version in a tarball. Then compile it and make it
run from your home directory. That's a good start and it's a method that
works for all of the distros (I think).
>From what I have heard, you'll be doing a lot of compiling on Gentoo or
Slackware :)
For the ones that work as documented in the generic instructions, you can do
something like this and it'll all work:
./configure --prefix=/home/sloncho
make
make install
That often works, but the learning starts when it doesn't. If you get error
messages, read them carefully. They might look like junk, but they actually
mean something. They usually have file names and line numbers. Look up all
of the error messages in Google.
One of the biggest differences between the Linux world and that horrible
place without penguins is software installation. You don't usually install
programs on Linux in the same way. You compile them for your system. If
you're using an RPM, someone did the compiling for you on a system just like
yours. I've used Apt, Debian's (and Ubuntu's) package manager. I don't
really know how that works, but I believe the concept is similar. There's
not a lot to learn there... just click the check-boxes for the software you
want to install.
Have fun :)
-- Vince
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