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Re: [SLE] SUSE 10 boxed edition broken beyond ...
- From: Marshall Heartley <marshall.heartley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 16:33:20 +0000 (UTC)
- Message-id: <43873CCD.2060902@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Anyway the final conclusion was:
- despite being much faster this suse release is so damn cripled that is feeling like 7.3 edition
I did not think that the 7.3 version was too horrible. Now it was either 8.0 or 8.1 that really gave me heartburn.
- the dvd disc is not bootable, used an old 9.3 to start grub
This may be a bad disc or incorrectly configured drive. I think that Novell will replace the DVD if defective.
- find out the Novell was loosing expensive devel time to block apps and libs from running ok, even trying to compile new libraries was much harder
I was able to successfully compile the libdvdcss2 rpm without any issues. Have not done anything else as of yet. Still trying to play catch up. Was away for a while and trying to get back into the swing of things.
- mp3 decoding is way wrong
AFAIK, the is no mp3 decoding with 10! You have to install the non-crippled versions from a repository such as packman in order to get this to work.
- even ac3 decoding or a52lib is imposible to get even I had legal copies of dvd movies.
Have not tried to do this yet. So I cannot comment on this.
- amarok with helix plugin is getting shity quality even with high end sound sistems
Not sure on this. I have not used either one yet so I cannot comment on this.
- multimedia is so cripled that I am thinking for the first time in 10 years to switch to windows
Agree that multimedia in SUSE is hosed but it can be fixed. Once you know what rpm's you need, just make a CD/DVD with the necessary packages and install them. You will still need things to get stuff to work in Windows as well. Better be careful, some of the "free" codecs that you will need have spyware and adware bundled with them.
- multimedia support is even better in windows nt4.0
As a former MCSE with NT4, I can say that no this statement is definately false.
- all the studies regarding desktop usability and multimedia vs. windows are true
Which studies are you referring to?? Anyone know what studies the OP was referring to??
This policy of not upseting anyone, especially Microsoft is a closer look on what software devel will be un USA. Just a big consortium of universal consense going nowhere but down.
I think that you are a bit confused here! Some of the things especially mp3 support was removed because of legal issues and M$ had nothing to do with that. Some formats M$ did develop. Others, they did not. Please make sure that you know what you are referring to.
Novell, drop out the linux business, I never saw such a regress in linux development since SuSE was bought by you.
With some of the patent laws that got passed, Novell may not have had a choice. Well they could have paid the licensing fees and passed the cost onto the end users. Then there would be a flaming thread about the cost jumping throught the roof! Cannot have it both ways. Novell I am sure had to make a decision.
I am switch back to 9.3 on all my desktops, i am not planning to implement SuSE 10 on any server.
Whatever works for you. If 9.3 made you happy, then go for it.
I am looking toward another Linux distro - maybe SUPER.
That is what freedom of choice is all about.
Waiting to see if Novell is going to release some multimedia packs in YOU, like in 9.3.
What Novell could maybe do is like something I was referring to in the above. They can put for purchase a pack that will let SUSE do most of what the original poster wanted. It may not be very cost effective though. Not sure. But last I looked, the licensing fees for mp3 was kind of steep.
A not at all happy SUSE camper.
Well we cannot do anything to change that. If you are soo inclinded to voice such an opinion, then please write to your politicians in your country and voice your displeasure at them for allowing such laws to come into effect that forced Novell to make this change.
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