Hmmm, no source DVD? Ok, I can live with that as I have never needed it and, as has been pointed out, I could request it if I wanted. But I do feel that the change to printed documentation is a bad step. Consider this, Microsoft started out by shipping a decent combined admin/user manual with MSDOS and then the early versions of Windows. I think it was from about Win Me that they stopped. All documentation was from then on included on the CD. So what happens if you can't access that CD (or DVD in this case)? Ok, most people have access to the net and can ask for help but it's not the same as having that satisfaction of sitting there with a manual and working out where things have gone wrong. Plus, hands up all those who have taken the admin manual to the bathroom for a good read :-) Or, perhpas like me have sunk into a nice relaxing bath and gone through the admin manual to see what could be learned? Sorry, I honestly think that it is a wrong move to change the printed documentation in this manner. I'd like to add that what has always swung it for me in buying the boxed set is the fact that it comes with two decent manuals. I do hope this idea is reconsidered. -- ============================================== I am only human, please forgive me if I make a mistake it is not deliberate. ============================================== Take care. Kevan Farmer 34 Hill Street Cheslyn Hay Staffordshire WS6 7HR