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Re: [SLE] SUSE Linux 10.0 Retail Box a Step Backwards
- From: "James P. Bennett" <jbennett@xxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 16:43:13 -0400 (EDT)
- Message-id: <200510122043.j9CKhDCA062472@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
From: Hans Witvliet <hwit@xxxxxxxxxxx>
On Fri, 2005-10-07 at 00:00 -0400, BandiPat wrote:
> On Thursday 06 October 2005 11:48 pm, Scott Leighton wrote:
> > On Thursday 06 October 2005 8:33 pm, Kurt Wall wrote:
<snip>
> > Second, my frame of reference is SUSE Pro 9.3's package, which
> > contained
> >
...
> >
> > Now, comes SUSE Linux 10.0, ONLY OFFERED IN ONE PACKAGE.
> > It contains;
...
> > I found lot's of value in the 9.3 Pro package, I was pleased when
> > I openned it.
> >
> > I find no value in the 10.0 package, I need an admin manual
> > a lot more than I need a start up manual (think about it, you
> > only 'start up' once, you admin stuff all the time), and I
> > appreciated the Media holder to protect the media I
> > purchased. The sticker was a nice touch, kind of a
> > thank you to the customer. They are all gone in 10.0,
> > so why bother buying the box set in the first place? Might
> > as well just download the ISO's....
> >
> > Scott
> ************
<snip>
...
Perhaps the SuSE product manager should let the customers decide
a) for those not able or capable of burning, just sell a nice plastic
box with just the DVD's (and stickers) for even less.
b) or a deluxe box with all kind of architectures (386, 64, ppc, Sparc,
HP-PA, ... and all books (there could/should be more) nicely printed out
and longer official support for much much more money.
Hans
I concur. But there is one more consideration. Having a nicely bound
administrator's manual is excellent advertising. I teach at a U where
MS XP Pro is orthodoxy. Yet colleagues often borrowed my SuSE manual
and ended up ordering it for themselves. The little startup manual
sent with 10.0 doesn't suffice. [In many little ways, Novell continues
its reputation at being inept at marketing (try using its web pages if
you don't have the precise name of what you seek).]
jim bennett
On Fri, 2005-10-07 at 00:00 -0400, BandiPat wrote:
> On Thursday 06 October 2005 11:48 pm, Scott Leighton wrote:
> > On Thursday 06 October 2005 8:33 pm, Kurt Wall wrote:
<snip>
> > Second, my frame of reference is SUSE Pro 9.3's package, which
> > contained
> >
...
> >
> > Now, comes SUSE Linux 10.0, ONLY OFFERED IN ONE PACKAGE.
> > It contains;
...
> > I found lot's of value in the 9.3 Pro package, I was pleased when
> > I openned it.
> >
> > I find no value in the 10.0 package, I need an admin manual
> > a lot more than I need a start up manual (think about it, you
> > only 'start up' once, you admin stuff all the time), and I
> > appreciated the Media holder to protect the media I
> > purchased. The sticker was a nice touch, kind of a
> > thank you to the customer. They are all gone in 10.0,
> > so why bother buying the box set in the first place? Might
> > as well just download the ISO's....
> >
> > Scott
> ************
<snip>
...
Perhaps the SuSE product manager should let the customers decide
a) for those not able or capable of burning, just sell a nice plastic
box with just the DVD's (and stickers) for even less.
b) or a deluxe box with all kind of architectures (386, 64, ppc, Sparc,
HP-PA, ... and all books (there could/should be more) nicely printed out
and longer official support for much much more money.
Hans
I concur. But there is one more consideration. Having a nicely bound
administrator's manual is excellent advertising. I teach at a U where
MS XP Pro is orthodoxy. Yet colleagues often borrowed my SuSE manual
and ended up ordering it for themselves. The little startup manual
sent with 10.0 doesn't suffice. [In many little ways, Novell continues
its reputation at being inept at marketing (try using its web pages if
you don't have the precise name of what you seek).]
jim bennett
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