On Saturday 15 October 2005 01:45, Randall R Schulz wrote:
Art,
On Friday 14 October 2005 22:49, Art Fore wrote:
On Fri, 2005-10-14 at 21:03 -0700, Randall R Schulz wrote:
Art,
On Friday 14 October 2005 19:10, Art Fore wrote:
I installed it from the 10.0 DVD, but I don't think it is on the CD. You can point the Yast Installation source to the suse ftp site if you do not have a DVD player.
And still you will not find this package.
The fragmented nature of the 10.0 distribution is by far its most unpleasant aspect.
The inconsistencies between what's listed as available from Guru's RPM and Packman vs. what can be installed via those repositories' YaST counterparts are also annoying.
What about ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/10.0/iso/ This contains the dvd isos for the various architectures.
Well, many of the key servers are a moving target at best. E.g., Eberhard told us to use ftp4.gwdg.de instead of ftp.gwdg.de, but now it's failing to respond or responding with errors. The original server, ftp.gwdg.de is still working, but rather slow (but nowhere near as bad as it was a week ago, of course). And the high-bandwidth, nearby servers such as mirrors.kernel.org do not have the full complement of packages.
I really think the number of repositories one must configure to get at the full complement of packages available to purchasers of the commercial (boxed) distribution is a sign of poor planning. There really seems to be no reason for it to be like this.
And finding out now that Amazon.com has not been supplied enough boxes to fulfill it sales commitments just adds insult to injury.
Randall Schulz
Randall, all: I have found this to be a problem as well. I was finally able to pick and choose enough install sources to get everything installed, but it was a difficult process. I too found that a number of the OSS mirrors were only partial mirrors. On some mirrors, the bandwidth was so slow it took 40 minutes just to read the package lists into yast. While this isn't a complaint, we can definitely do better. I think the split between suse 10 and opensuse 10 and the different mirrors and iso, torrent, and ftp install options have been challenging for many of the long time users, not to mention the new additions. All in all I think it will settle down after all the mirrors are fully synchronized. It may make sense for the next release to "pre-load" and synchronize all mirrors before opening up the downloads to the world. This would eliminate the overwhelming demand on the few complete servers and the confusion caused when somebody new hits an incomplete mirror and gets frustrated wondering why they can't find package X. The shear demand and number of servers that need to be preloaded is kind of a "your a victim of your own success" issue. But it is definitely doable. I see it as a good thing. The howls we are hearing on the SLE list are nothing compared to the howls on the mandriva list. Kind of funny actually. Oh well, that's my $.02 for the day.......... -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 www.rankinlawfirm.com