I have finally managed to get my hands on V10 .. the evaluation DVD. Lots of great software as allways. But must say I was disappointed. Someone on the list said that they had severe problems getting the system to run for the first time since V8 .. . Well kinda similiar experience a bit. Been uising SuSE since 8.1 . I bought retail V 8.1,8.2,9.0 & 9.3 . All them installed & booted usually fine. Some have been more unstable than others ((8.1 & 9.1(the first 2.6 version .. right?)come to my mind) . 8.2 & 9.3 have prob in my opinion been the best of the ones I know. My lovely Wacom tablet wasnt recognized for the v10 install (no prob in 9.3 or 9.2) . When the system booted for the first time ... it very much stopped after finishing the boot-runlevel & changing into runlevel 5. I had the tablet (USB) & USB wireless adaptor plugged in. It took it something like several hours to get from end of boot-level to "starting HAL" .... after that I lost my nerves ... & reset ... take out the USB bits .. & it booted fine (there now are all these configuration things being shown on 1st boot .. might have been there akready in 9.3 ... reminded me of installing Ubuntu :-) . Once I got my tablet running it behaved very similiar to new Vector versions ... I guess there have been kernel changes recently .. movement of the pen above the tablet is not noticed .. only when the pen actually touches the tablet surface ... & additionally to that the mouse jumps not relativly the same distance as the pen does when I put it at a different corner of the tablet (its okay if I lost ye in my crappy description 8-) ) . So its quite unusable & highly irritating. Yet have to explore the rest. Xept for the above things there seem to have been nice improvments everywhere :-) This realease seems a bit rushed I have the feeling as Ive never had problems with the first boot until V10. Sorry 4 all this moaning but just sharing my experience . ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com