Just to clarify what SuSE users are expecting and what makes the main difference between a project for enthusiasts and by entushiasts of Free Software as Debian and a project like OpenSuSE, a project for and by people who wants to collaborate in a Novell/SuSE effort to open their technology to improve it and for enthusiasts of SuSE Linux and not just the Free Software ones (I mean, there is no SuSE GNU/Linux) : On Mon, 2005-09-12 at 08:01 -0500, Alejandro Forero Cuervo wrote:
They most certainly are. Look at:
There are a lots of sites like that about SuSE, but, none of them are really support, the kind of "commercial support" that organization of different kinds used to have with contracts by respected companies with well seasoned technicians backed by vendors who make the techonology.
If you are refering to commercial support, look at
http://www.debian.org/consultants ,
which lists consultants in over 50 countries. As you can see, the procedures in place around Debian allow these consultants to offer commercial support around it, even though they control Debian, as a whole, much less than Novell controls SuSE (since they have to go through the regular procedures).
I'm really concerned about it : I saw on that link just 3 folks on my country (Peru) and for one of them I know there is no evaluation process, but, I looked in countries around and saw that Argentina got just 8, Venezuela just 2, Colombia got none, etc. At least, in my country, there are 4 companies given support for SuSE and no less than 80 experts in SuSE around the country. However, developers collaboration should be defined, because one of the main objectives of the project is to gain more developers involved with SuSE Linux and from the roadmap http://www.opensuse.org/Roadmap (yes, OpenSuSE has one), we can see that early next year Novell/SuSE will open AutoBuild (which is not the same as buildd). OpenSuSE is not Debian, it shouldn't be Debian (at least for me), but, it can take good practices from Debian and Debian should do the same from others, so, it could take the next step to be as professional as Linux from SuSE is. Regards, -- Walter Cuestas Agramonte InfoSec / Open Source Consultant LPIC-1 CCLE-CCLI BCLA RHCE BNSA MCP, CCNA, IBM CS MCNE, CNS, CNI, CNST, CLS http://wcuestas.blog-city.com Phone : 511-97926168 ##### ###### # # # # " # " # ##vvvvv## ## vvv ## # ## ## ## ### ### +++##### ##++ ++++++# #++++++ +++++++# #+++++++ +++++#######+++++ +++ +++