On Wed, Aug 31, 2005 at 01:25:11PM +0200, Robert Schiele wrote:
On Wed, Aug 31, 2005 at 12:59:45PM +0200, houghi wrote:
On Wed, Aug 31, 2005 at 12:41:28PM +0200, Robert Schiele wrote:
You mean you want the 5 CD set? Well, in that case you need the appropriate jigdo file from the same directory. boot.jigdo is the one to create the network install image.
Now I am confused. I thought jigdo would make some differences between an old version and a new version.
You could do such things with jigdo as well but as SUSE rebuilds all packages between the betas this is of no help.
OK. So we can drop that.
I _don't_ consider this as an alternative to the delta images but as an alternative to downloading full blown ISO images. The delta images should stay because they are are very good solution.
Uhm. What will the impact for me as a user be? Why would I use this instead of the ISO's? Unless you can guarantee a simple click-click for the the end-user, they will want iso's
Are you now talking about delta images or about jigdo files?
About the jigdo files. With iso files, I can just click and download. With *.jidgo you first need to install something and then hope it works. I was the best example of how it did NOT work. The GUI was not available for me. The CLI needed some looking up on how to work this from my side. With an iso, I just either click on it to download, or if I am a bit more advanced, I type wget. Will work and quaranteed no problems with whatever OS I decide to download.
Let's see when Thomas has his simple Windows GUI implemented. I mean then there is no longer an argument. If people fail to copy _one_ URL into a simple Windows GUI, do you think they are capable of installing an operating system?
For me that is no reason to do it in a more complicated way. To _ME_ this sounds as if you are saying: If you can not handle this, please go away. That is not my idea of userfriendly.
With that I see no advantage for the enduser to use it if I can just click on either a torrent or iso link. I see that mirrors would need less space, but users will not like to use it.
I see no advantage for me when you don't give me suitcase with 5 million Dollars. I see that you might not have so much money, but I will not like to see this. --- Got my point.
OK. I will ask it the other way around. What are the advantage for me, as an enduser to use jidgo, instead of direct iso downloads?
So from the mirrors point of view: good
From the users point of view: bad
Who are you making the distro for?
Who is providing support for distributing the stuff to the end user. If users are _that_ inflexible mirror admins could be as well.
Users ARE that inflexible, as are a lot of admins. :-/
In my opinion someone that is not even willing to do some really simple steps to get the image should just go to a shop and buy an official package from SUSE.
Again, to me that sounds eletish. Also: will openSUSe be available in the shops, or will that be SUSE? -- houghi http://www.opensuse.org/index.php/Making_a_DVD_from_CDs