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Re: [SLE] ReiserFS (was: 9.3: Keyboard keymaps and xorg)
- From: AmigaPhil@xxxxxxx
- Date: 19 Jun 2005 14:21:28 +0100
- Message-id: <4336.31T1439T8613796AmigaPhil@xxxxxxx>
Sid Boyce (sboyce@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) wrote something I wish to comment :
(news:<42B3ED29.3090201@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> posted on 18-juin-05 10:45:13)
> The only times I've had reiserfs problems they have been due to hardware
> on the way out - IDE controller chips and other motherboard faults,
> reiserfsck has corrected the problem, but much later some hardware has
> died and that goes way back to when we first moved from ext2 (problems
> with ext2 also) to reiserfs. There is nothing unreliable about reiserfs
> and I'm using it on 3 SuSE boxes, 1 Mandrake, 1 gentoo and 1 Mandriva
> LE2005 box. When I was at work, I used Linux only on my laptop with
> SuSE/reiserfs in full confidence as it was my main tool with masses of
> work related stuff that was critically needed at customer sites, of
> course, backed up to my home machine with SuSE/reiserfs. I'm eagerly
> looking forward to reiser4 going mainstream.
I must admit I had to reset the computer twice. One was sometimes
after the installation of 9.3. At boot up, the computer was "stuck"
a very long time, showing just just a back screen with the cursor
(underscore) at the top left corner. CTRL-ALT-DEL seem to have no
effect, so I pushed reset. The second time was when I tried to
configure X using SaX2 from runlevel 3. Again, all I could see was
a black screen with the "X" mouse pointer. Again, CTRL-ALT-DEL
didn't help to get out. So again, I pushed reset.
Maybe THAT was the cause of the filesystem. But I was confident
that the journalizing would do its job, and I later saw no signs
that something was going wrong (until I found the mysterious
hidden/unaccessible/unremovable files, that is).
It took me two weeks to sort out the keyboard configuration issue
(and find it was in fact an issue with ReiserFS). Althought it
was somehow a good experience to learn a bit more about Linux,
I had a bad time to trace the source of the problem. I hope I'll
never "loose" files in such way anymore, that's why i'm a bit angry
against a filesystem that is supposed to be more reliable than
other non-journalising FS.
>> AND *DONE* ! The keyboard configuration issue is closed now.
>>
> Is that some sort of keypad you are using? I had a look at YaST
> yesterday, but it seemed to only offer configuration of one keyboard, so
> I didn't go any further to try to get my USB phone keypad working.
No. It's a PC105 keys type (BE layout).
I don't know how USB keypad are supported, but I saw there is a
xkeyboard-config package on DVD1. Maybe this can help (?)
>> (I wonder if I'll take the assle to switch from ReiserFS to Ext3.
>> Is there a tool which perform a backup, format the partition,
>> and restore the backup to it without much pain ?)
>>
> You could use something like rsync to blast it off to another box. If as
> I suspect it's hardware, you could at least prove that by going ext3 and
> getting the same problem.
Well, I'll stay with ReiserFS for the moment. Choosing a filesystem
is usually something you decide at installation time. Changing the
filesystem the OS is lying on is a bit more complicated afterward.
When I was using Suse 8.0 (and ReiserFS), I found the access to disk
to be slow (this on UW SCSI) or to be more precise, I could hear the
disk being very busy. I wasn't sure if I had to blame the journalising
taking too much time, or the swapping, but I thought I would give
a try to Ext3 the next time I'll have to install Linux.
Note: I have 384Mb
(3 256Mb RAM stick, which later "turn into" 128Mb !?!).
Is this short and can cause a lot of disk swapping ?
Can it improve significantly if I install the swapp
partition on another disk (I have an IDE disk with
some spare space) ?
But I'm giving a second chance to ReiserFS with my 9.3 installation :-)
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(news:<42B3ED29.3090201@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> posted on 18-juin-05 10:45:13)
> The only times I've had reiserfs problems they have been due to hardware
> on the way out - IDE controller chips and other motherboard faults,
> reiserfsck has corrected the problem, but much later some hardware has
> died and that goes way back to when we first moved from ext2 (problems
> with ext2 also) to reiserfs. There is nothing unreliable about reiserfs
> and I'm using it on 3 SuSE boxes, 1 Mandrake, 1 gentoo and 1 Mandriva
> LE2005 box. When I was at work, I used Linux only on my laptop with
> SuSE/reiserfs in full confidence as it was my main tool with masses of
> work related stuff that was critically needed at customer sites, of
> course, backed up to my home machine with SuSE/reiserfs. I'm eagerly
> looking forward to reiser4 going mainstream.
I must admit I had to reset the computer twice. One was sometimes
after the installation of 9.3. At boot up, the computer was "stuck"
a very long time, showing just just a back screen with the cursor
(underscore) at the top left corner. CTRL-ALT-DEL seem to have no
effect, so I pushed reset. The second time was when I tried to
configure X using SaX2 from runlevel 3. Again, all I could see was
a black screen with the "X" mouse pointer. Again, CTRL-ALT-DEL
didn't help to get out. So again, I pushed reset.
Maybe THAT was the cause of the filesystem. But I was confident
that the journalizing would do its job, and I later saw no signs
that something was going wrong (until I found the mysterious
hidden/unaccessible/unremovable files, that is).
It took me two weeks to sort out the keyboard configuration issue
(and find it was in fact an issue with ReiserFS). Althought it
was somehow a good experience to learn a bit more about Linux,
I had a bad time to trace the source of the problem. I hope I'll
never "loose" files in such way anymore, that's why i'm a bit angry
against a filesystem that is supposed to be more reliable than
other non-journalising FS.
>> AND *DONE* ! The keyboard configuration issue is closed now.
>>
> Is that some sort of keypad you are using? I had a look at YaST
> yesterday, but it seemed to only offer configuration of one keyboard, so
> I didn't go any further to try to get my USB phone keypad working.
No. It's a PC105 keys type (BE layout).
I don't know how USB keypad are supported, but I saw there is a
xkeyboard-config package on DVD1. Maybe this can help (?)
>> (I wonder if I'll take the assle to switch from ReiserFS to Ext3.
>> Is there a tool which perform a backup, format the partition,
>> and restore the backup to it without much pain ?)
>>
> You could use something like rsync to blast it off to another box. If as
> I suspect it's hardware, you could at least prove that by going ext3 and
> getting the same problem.
Well, I'll stay with ReiserFS for the moment. Choosing a filesystem
is usually something you decide at installation time. Changing the
filesystem the OS is lying on is a bit more complicated afterward.
When I was using Suse 8.0 (and ReiserFS), I found the access to disk
to be slow (this on UW SCSI) or to be more precise, I could hear the
disk being very busy. I wasn't sure if I had to blame the journalising
taking too much time, or the swapping, but I thought I would give
a try to Ext3 the next time I'll have to install Linux.
Note: I have 384Mb
(3 256Mb RAM stick, which later "turn into" 128Mb !?!).
Is this short and can cause a lot of disk swapping ?
Can it improve significantly if I install the swapp
partition on another disk (I have an IDE disk with
some spare space) ?
But I'm giving a second chance to ReiserFS with my 9.3 installation :-)
AmigaPhil, world citizen. /No MS-HTML mail please/ PGP key: 0x9C07F6C1
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