Mailinglist Archive: opensuse (2441 mails)

[Ken Schneider <suse-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Thu, 2005-06-30 at 05:31 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:

> The amavis filter at Relay2.suse.de flags your email as spam. You are 
> triggering three notches:
> 
> BAYES_80              score 0  0      3.608  2.0
> DNS_FROM_RFC_POST     score 0  1.376  0      1.614
> DNS_FROM_RFC_WHOIS    score 0  0.492  0      0.296
>                                           total: 3.91
> 
> No, they must be using an older version; 3.0.2 perhaps?
> 
> score BAYES_80            0  0      3.608  2.087
> score DNS_FROM_RFC_POST   0  1.376  0      1.614
> score DNS_FROM_RFC_WHOIS  0  0.492  0      0.296
>                                total:    3.997
> 
> Well, they may be using an altered scoring. What can you do about it? Let 
> us see.
> 
> describe DNS_FROM_RFC_POST      Envelope sender in postmaster.rfc-ignorant.org
> describe DNS_FROM_RFC_WHOIS     Envelope sender in whois.rfc-ignorant.org
> 
The MAJOR problem with this is they (rfc-ignorant.org) expect everyone,
including spammers, to play nice and not send spam to the postmaster
address. They also expect the spammers to play nice and not harvest
addresses from the whois data bases. This is the reason that
rfc-ignorant.org is going to have problems. Perhaps someone needs to add
their postmaster or abuse address to a spam list and see how fast they
shutdown the addresses.
You cannot fight the spammers by simply playing fair because the
spammers never will play fair. Because of this poeple are going to hide
their whois contact info or use phony info and they will block their
postmaster and abuse address.

-- 
Ken Schneider
UNIX  since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE  since 1998

 "The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is probably
  the day they start making vacuum cleaners." -Ernst Jan Plugge