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Re: [SLE] problem with dialup, Kinternet, kmail
- From: SRGlasoe <srglasoe@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 11:25:14 -0600
- Message-id: <200411011125.14801.srglasoe@xxxxxxxxxxx>
On Mon November 1 2004 10:56 am, Anders Johansson wrote:
> On Monday, 1 November 2004 17.42, SRGlasoe wrote:
> > On Mon November 1 2004 10:05 am, Anders Johansson wrote:
> > > On Monday, 1 November 2004 16.50, Constant Brouerius van Nidek wrote:
> > > > Login via APOP failed. The server may not support APOP, although it
> > > > claims to support it, or the password may be wrong.
> > > > The server terminated the connection.
> > >
> > > But this wasn't the error you talked about in the original post.
> > >
> > > Like I said, I get those "unknown host" errors too from time to time,
> > > even though both my DNS and POP is on my local LAN. I'm 99% certain
> > > it's a KDE/KMail bug
> >
> > Agreed. I see those same errors saying the ISP's servers don't do the
> > last known working protocol or my password is wrong even though kmail's
> > settings haven't changed. Once in a while I do have success by changing
> > kmail's Network, Sending Options, Authentication Method from/to plain,
> > login or md-5 and/or changing the Encryption Method from/to none or tls.
> >
> > I think we are all seeing the same problem.
>
> I wonder. I don't have to reboot to fix my problem. I don't even have to
> log out, all I have to do is try again to make it work. Could that really
> be the same bug you're seeing?
Maybe, maybe not. I have success like yours sometimes but lately its required
a reboot. I do the baby steps of quitting KMail, waiting 5-10 minutes,
restarting it. If no go, proceed to try different authentication methods one
at a time to see what may work this time. Sometimes, but not always, if I
don't do anything the problem goes away by itself after hours between sending
attempts. My impatience combined with needing to get a time sensitive email
response in or out usually won't allow me to wait. Almost every time it
happens there is a different resolution. The reboot is the sure fire method
that I know works to reset everything without changing any settings anywhere.
That's why its taken me so long to define what I've seen, the methods I've
used to isolate the issue, etc. I've seen this occurring since SUSE 8.0 or
8.1 and all the versions of KDE and kmail up to SUSE 9.1, KDE 3.3.0 and kmail
1.7. On very different hardware also.
I really think its KDE/kmail. Still waiting to test the ncsd theory here
though.
And "Thanks Anders" for helping to tackle this one. I need someone with your
expertise to do the sanity check on my troubleshooting methods and suggesting
things to check.
> On Monday, 1 November 2004 17.42, SRGlasoe wrote:
> > On Mon November 1 2004 10:05 am, Anders Johansson wrote:
> > > On Monday, 1 November 2004 16.50, Constant Brouerius van Nidek wrote:
> > > > Login via APOP failed. The server may not support APOP, although it
> > > > claims to support it, or the password may be wrong.
> > > > The server terminated the connection.
> > >
> > > But this wasn't the error you talked about in the original post.
> > >
> > > Like I said, I get those "unknown host" errors too from time to time,
> > > even though both my DNS and POP is on my local LAN. I'm 99% certain
> > > it's a KDE/KMail bug
> >
> > Agreed. I see those same errors saying the ISP's servers don't do the
> > last known working protocol or my password is wrong even though kmail's
> > settings haven't changed. Once in a while I do have success by changing
> > kmail's Network, Sending Options, Authentication Method from/to plain,
> > login or md-5 and/or changing the Encryption Method from/to none or tls.
> >
> > I think we are all seeing the same problem.
>
> I wonder. I don't have to reboot to fix my problem. I don't even have to
> log out, all I have to do is try again to make it work. Could that really
> be the same bug you're seeing?
Maybe, maybe not. I have success like yours sometimes but lately its required
a reboot. I do the baby steps of quitting KMail, waiting 5-10 minutes,
restarting it. If no go, proceed to try different authentication methods one
at a time to see what may work this time. Sometimes, but not always, if I
don't do anything the problem goes away by itself after hours between sending
attempts. My impatience combined with needing to get a time sensitive email
response in or out usually won't allow me to wait. Almost every time it
happens there is a different resolution. The reboot is the sure fire method
that I know works to reset everything without changing any settings anywhere.
That's why its taken me so long to define what I've seen, the methods I've
used to isolate the issue, etc. I've seen this occurring since SUSE 8.0 or
8.1 and all the versions of KDE and kmail up to SUSE 9.1, KDE 3.3.0 and kmail
1.7. On very different hardware also.
I really think its KDE/kmail. Still waiting to test the ncsd theory here
though.
And "Thanks Anders" for helping to tackle this one. I need someone with your
expertise to do the sanity check on my troubleshooting methods and suggesting
things to check.
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