On Sunday 21 November 2004 03:31, jfweber@bellsouth.net wrote:
On Saturday 20 November 2004 9:40 am, Joe Polk wrote:
I think the problem is that the ratio of flawless installations to problems is much greater in 9.2 than it was in previous versions.
Seems to me this list in heavily weighted bad to good installs w/ every new release. Usually, except for the first 10-20 folks who get their boxed versions before anyone else does, and hurry to install it and report on the good bad or ugly, we don't hear from folks who have no problems. By the nature of this list, we get lots and lots of complaints. Especially from long time users who feel hard done by when some beloved piece of hardware no longer works as expected... or perhaps there is an issue w/ a new box and the new hardware isn't yet working as expected, nor even as it did before they upgrades.
I fear we all suffer from selective amnesia ... things we sweated and tweeked to get running, worked for so long, before we finally are bitten by the desire to upgrade bug... ( lie down and rest until the feeling passes <G>) we forget how much time and effort we spent doing the prior install. ;)
<snip> Yet,
if you total the experiences where have systems freezing and unexplained issues you get a big picture that just makes 9.2 look poor. And it's hard for those who've had a perfectly fine installation experience to full appreciate and that's probably a natural thing.
And as I said, the negative appearing picture might be less negative if all the easy installs and no problem at all installs on legacy systems were reported to the list.
I reported previously that my install was flawless. Nor have I experienced the same kinds of problems with SUSE 9.2. Some of the changes from 8.0 to 9.2 take a little getting used to. I still haven't had time to work on my Handspring Visor or my Kodak camera, but I have a feeling that I'll be able to resolve these last two issues when I get time to put my nose to the grindstone. I have noticed that, if I stay logged in for a few days (without logging out), the system seems to slow down. I think the system takes longer to boot than I anticipated (3 minutes), although I'm not starting any more services than I did with SUSE 8.0. However, speed is not an essential factor for me, as most apps load fairly quickly once I am logged in.
You may have to try another distro for your hardware. I used to get reamed in IRC for trying to help someone by asking what distro they were running. People would say, "Linux is linux, that shouldn't matter." But I've seen hardware work under one distro and not under another, even within the same kernel releases. <shrug>
I agree here. I have a couple of Live systems I use to check out hardware before I install, unless I know it's going to work already. Knoppix and several similar types of distros put a lot of emphasis on hardware detection and use. However, it still won't setup my sound card, and refuses to see my dsl connection... <shrug> On other systems I've tired it on, various things work or don't. a lot has to do w/ hardware combinations. And unless you build your won boxes , it's easy to get old hardware fobbed off as "free upgrades" Older dvd readers are being 'given away" as upgrades by some companies. They can't sell them as they are of limited use. Different strokes for different folks..
I, too, can see the need to try other distros. After all, isn't _choice_ one of the strengths of GNU/Linux? I cannot, for the life of me, suggest going back to Windows, as someone else suggested. Don -- DC Parris GNU Evangelist http://matheteuo.org/ http://chaddb.sourceforge.net/ "Free software is like God's love - you can share it with anyone anytime anywhere!"