Danny Sauer wrote:
John wrote regarding 'Re: [SLE] new v9.2 is out' on Fri, Oct 08 at 20:08:
Danny Sauer wrote:
Jim wrote regarding 'Re: [SLE] new v9.2 is out' on Fri, Oct 08 at 14:06: [...]
I understand that a new kernel is difficult and risky to introduce. On the other hand, I've heard enough credible (to me anyway) stories that 9.1 was pushed to release before it was really stable.
I hope if that problem exists, that it is fixed before a fine product's name is tarnished.
Too late - Netscape's dead. Oh, were we talking about SuSE?
--Danny, noting what happened to Netscape *again*, just in case the SuSE folks are listening.
To ALL: If Netscape's dead, then what am I replying to you on? Secondly, you cannot use IE on Linux, so which is it that is dead? I wish you people that keep on lying about Netscape or Mozilla, would just go away to stay on MSFT!!! >:o
In the news: AOL building new browser based on IE. AOL owns Netscape, FYI, and Netscape is just a theme on top of Mozilla 1.7.
Also of note, Mozilla is not Netscape. Firefox is not Netscape. While it's true that the Mozilla effort was originally founded by Netscape in 1998, the Mozilla Foundation was established in July 2003 with *support* from AOL's Netscpe devision. The gecko rendering engine, which was the heart of the Netscape-branded browsers, is a project of the Mozilla Foundation. Sure, Netscape The Company does occasionally take an open source browser, stick a skin on and tie AIM in - but they're dead as far as anyone realistic is concerned. They're not making a browser or providing competition to IE, they're making a skin for Mozilla.
Now, Firefox (and Mozilla, to a lesser extent) is finally presenting a real competitor to IE. They are not Netscape, though. They are products of the Mozilla Foundation. The Mozilla Foundation is an independent organization, incorporated in CA as a not-for-profit. Netscape is a company that almost killed themselves by releasing a new browser a few months before it was good enough to *actually* release to the public.
Do bear in mind the separation bewteen Mozilla and Netscape before lumping them together, eh?
I'll concede that the Netscape Network isn't dead, though. That's just because all of those AOL, Compuserve, and AIM users automatically have accounts, though. :) Netscape Communicator is even less of a contender than Opera, though, despite the 9 people who use those two browsers. It's effectively dead.
--Danny, who was at UIUC (home of NCSA, home of Mosaic) when the graphical web browser was essentially invented...
To Danny Sauer,et al: Your credentials are not in question, only the fact that ALL versions of Mozilla/Netscape/Firebird and others are very, very related in the code used to compile them! That cannot be denied, but AOL, if it even contributes to the Mozilla.org, is only one of many companies that do, and I wonder why you did not mention them? If you use Linux, the Mozilla based browsers are the only real secure way to go. Sure you could use Wine and a MSFT product, but why? When you do so, all you are doing is using up cpu overhead you could have used for something else, plus you open yourself to all kinds of viruses and hackers!! If you use a laptop, this is even more pronounced a problem! Danny Sauer, I had hoped to ask you for some help on Linux, but it is obvious that is a waste of time, and I can guarantee you there are thousands of people on Linux that use Mozilla based products! Your credentials, obviously, do not cover accounting for total use of a product! :-(