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RE: [SLE] Boot time excessive for clean SuSE 9.0 install
- From: "Larry Johnson KISE" <ljohnson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 18:15:22 -0700
- Message-id: <NFBBKDGMKLPBLAOOBFHBMECAECAA.ljohnson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > On Sat, 2004-07-24 at 12:56 -0700, Larry Johnson KISE wrote:
> > > Boot times went to over 10 minutes.
> >
> > Yikes!
> >
> > If you monitor the boot messages on the console, is there any particular
> > point where it hangs, or is the slowness evenly distributed, so to
> > speak?
>
> Yes, at the end of a line: Sound driver: ....usb-audio
>
> > One idea is that it has something to do with ACPI, since that changed
> > dramatically in 9.0. Have you tried booting with acpi=off or acpi=pci as
> > a kernel parameter?
>
> Setting acpi=off in the Grub kernel options made a big difference.
>
> Thanks Anders.
>
Oops, Yikes & Worse
Turns out that a warm reboot reduces the time to logon, not acpi=off.
(doesn't need to reload drivers?)
So I bit the bullet and did a fresh and complete installation.
Now my boot times are ***9 minutes***, consistently.
I set HOTPLUG_DEBUG to verbose and see a lot of time and waits with hotplug
messages in SYSLOG.
So I tried NOHOTPLUG=YES as a boot parameter, and then NOHOTPLUG=YES and
NOCOLDPLUG=YES, but boot is still hanging in the same places - it seems that
these boot parameters don't work in 9.0.
-----
I'm about ready to conclude that the SuSE desktop is not ready for prime
time, and that SuSE doesn't care. I know that's harsh - but skimpy and
apparently inaccurate documentation along with too much stuff that does not
work like HP printers/Scanners (only works under root)/PC Webcams and
meaningless error messages/unstable applications/too much system maintenance
have tolerance limits in users, especially me. Too much time, not enough
results.
I short, I'm bummed about it.
Larry Johnson, KeepItSimpleEngineering,Inc.
> > > Boot times went to over 10 minutes.
> >
> > Yikes!
> >
> > If you monitor the boot messages on the console, is there any particular
> > point where it hangs, or is the slowness evenly distributed, so to
> > speak?
>
> Yes, at the end of a line: Sound driver: ....usb-audio
>
> > One idea is that it has something to do with ACPI, since that changed
> > dramatically in 9.0. Have you tried booting with acpi=off or acpi=pci as
> > a kernel parameter?
>
> Setting acpi=off in the Grub kernel options made a big difference.
>
> Thanks Anders.
>
Oops, Yikes & Worse
Turns out that a warm reboot reduces the time to logon, not acpi=off.
(doesn't need to reload drivers?)
So I bit the bullet and did a fresh and complete installation.
Now my boot times are ***9 minutes***, consistently.
I set HOTPLUG_DEBUG to verbose and see a lot of time and waits with hotplug
messages in SYSLOG.
So I tried NOHOTPLUG=YES as a boot parameter, and then NOHOTPLUG=YES and
NOCOLDPLUG=YES, but boot is still hanging in the same places - it seems that
these boot parameters don't work in 9.0.
-----
I'm about ready to conclude that the SuSE desktop is not ready for prime
time, and that SuSE doesn't care. I know that's harsh - but skimpy and
apparently inaccurate documentation along with too much stuff that does not
work like HP printers/Scanners (only works under root)/PC Webcams and
meaningless error messages/unstable applications/too much system maintenance
have tolerance limits in users, especially me. Too much time, not enough
results.
I short, I'm bummed about it.
Larry Johnson, KeepItSimpleEngineering,Inc.
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