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RE: [SLE] Rant -- SuSE 9.1 is Not a Home Desktop solution at all
- From: Mike McMullin <mwmcmlln@xxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 18:04:00 -0400
- Message-id: <1086991440.3982.14.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
On Fri, 2004-06-11 at 07:30, Damon Jebb wrote:
> Mike McMullin wrote on 11 June 2004 11:21
> <Big snip>
> > I don't find it that difficult. Most of the time it does
> > what I expect and behaves ever so much better than my WinME
> > install on the other hard drive. On those occasions when it
> > doesn't, like getting the 3d acceleration running on an older
> > nVidia graphics card, I realize that if nVidia had produced
> > an RPM for 8.2 like they had for 7.3 life would be a lot
> > happier, but this isn't the fault of Linux, it's a problem
> > with Xwindows and the graphics card, and I've seen Windows
> > fight hardware just as much. That's why there are sites like
> > WinDrivers.com.
> Your point about X not being Linux, if accepted, means that you have to
> accept that Linux is indeed an OS that is completely unsuitable for your
> average home user looking replace MS Windows with Linux. No home user
> is likely to have the patience or ability to deal with the command line
> only operating system that is the purists Linux.
There is actually a choice of X servers, put out by people who may or
may not be actual kernel contributors, but it is distinctly separate
from the kernel itself, which is actually Linux. As far as not dealing
with the GUI, again you have a choice beyond the major two KDE or
Gnome. As to how well they suit your needs I cannot say. I'm sure you
could find some kind of nice Menu System, like a number of outfits used
to use on their DOS boxes, but again it's a question of what you want.
> X is a part of the 'Linux Experience' to those who have neither the time
> nor the knowledge to deal with the distinction. Until there is no
> distinction I believe that Linux remains suitable for enthusiasts on the
> desktop and is best suited to what it is really good at: servers.
Perhaps what you'd be more at home with is something along the lines
of either Lindows or Xandros, both are aimed squarely at the Windows
User market, and both have been well reviewed in terms of out of the box
usability.
Mike
--
Diplomacy is the subtle art of letting someone else have your way.
> Mike McMullin wrote on 11 June 2004 11:21
> <Big snip>
> > I don't find it that difficult. Most of the time it does
> > what I expect and behaves ever so much better than my WinME
> > install on the other hard drive. On those occasions when it
> > doesn't, like getting the 3d acceleration running on an older
> > nVidia graphics card, I realize that if nVidia had produced
> > an RPM for 8.2 like they had for 7.3 life would be a lot
> > happier, but this isn't the fault of Linux, it's a problem
> > with Xwindows and the graphics card, and I've seen Windows
> > fight hardware just as much. That's why there are sites like
> > WinDrivers.com.
> Your point about X not being Linux, if accepted, means that you have to
> accept that Linux is indeed an OS that is completely unsuitable for your
> average home user looking replace MS Windows with Linux. No home user
> is likely to have the patience or ability to deal with the command line
> only operating system that is the purists Linux.
There is actually a choice of X servers, put out by people who may or
may not be actual kernel contributors, but it is distinctly separate
from the kernel itself, which is actually Linux. As far as not dealing
with the GUI, again you have a choice beyond the major two KDE or
Gnome. As to how well they suit your needs I cannot say. I'm sure you
could find some kind of nice Menu System, like a number of outfits used
to use on their DOS boxes, but again it's a question of what you want.
> X is a part of the 'Linux Experience' to those who have neither the time
> nor the knowledge to deal with the distinction. Until there is no
> distinction I believe that Linux remains suitable for enthusiasts on the
> desktop and is best suited to what it is really good at: servers.
Perhaps what you'd be more at home with is something along the lines
of either Lindows or Xandros, both are aimed squarely at the Windows
User market, and both have been well reviewed in terms of out of the box
usability.
Mike
--
Diplomacy is the subtle art of letting someone else have your way.
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