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Re: [SLE] Can't write to floppy
- From: Patrick Shanahan <paka@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2004 21:33:05 -0500
- Message-id: <20040608023305.GH31393@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
* Doug McGarrett <xx@xxxxx> [06-07-04 21:21]:
> On Monday 07 June 2004 22:01, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
> > * Doug McGarrett <xx@xxxxx> [06-07-04 20:06]:
> > > What is this subfs business? I don't think I've run into it
> > > before, and it seems to be a problem to a whole batch of people
> > > posting here. Why not just delete it across the board and go back
> > > to the fstab design that we had 5 years ago?
> > >
> /snip/
> > > > First, have you tried mtools? From 9.0 I have had no problems
> > > > mounting a floppy. The mount command, above should be issued as
> > > > root. If you set up and entry in /etc/fstab, then you can mount
> > > > and unmount as a regular user.
> > > > Here is my fstab entry:
> > > > /dev/fd0 /media/floppy auto noauto,user,sync 0 0
> >
> > *You* can do that, if you wish. You do *not* need our permission.
> >
>
> I wasn't asking permission, I was asking what the devil this is, and
> why we should have it at all?
Guess I read your last sentence literally.
> /rant on
>
> It also seems to me, that if Linux is to become a desktop system, it
> has to to become more user-friendly, not less. If it is only going to
> be used in the corporate workplace, then probably a lot of these
> protective devices need to be in place, but if I'm going to use it in
> my home--without any kids, even--then there should be a simple way to
> turn most of these protections off. There does not seem to be any real
> need to prevent the user from writing to most of the media, except the
> root files. There might be a simple setup to allow a few users (mom,
> Pop, and the kids) separate permissions, but the idea of preventing
> anyone from doing anything ever is ridiculous.
>
> And, even someone in an office might like to copy something to a floppy or a
> CD for safe keeping. Yeah, maybe Linux doesn't crash, but systems do.
>
> rant off/
>
It is *something* to make the desktop "more user-friendly". Linux is not
made to prevent "anyone from doing anything ever". Looks like you could
benefit from reading some texts about the linux system and why things are
the way they are. I would suggest for a start, the User's Guide and the
System Administrator's Manual that are delivered with SuSE's boxed set.
Perhaps this would relieve some of your frustrations and rantings.
gud luk,
--
Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535
http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org
HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/photos
> On Monday 07 June 2004 22:01, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
> > * Doug McGarrett <xx@xxxxx> [06-07-04 20:06]:
> > > What is this subfs business? I don't think I've run into it
> > > before, and it seems to be a problem to a whole batch of people
> > > posting here. Why not just delete it across the board and go back
> > > to the fstab design that we had 5 years ago?
> > >
> /snip/
> > > > First, have you tried mtools? From 9.0 I have had no problems
> > > > mounting a floppy. The mount command, above should be issued as
> > > > root. If you set up and entry in /etc/fstab, then you can mount
> > > > and unmount as a regular user.
> > > > Here is my fstab entry:
> > > > /dev/fd0 /media/floppy auto noauto,user,sync 0 0
> >
> > *You* can do that, if you wish. You do *not* need our permission.
> >
>
> I wasn't asking permission, I was asking what the devil this is, and
> why we should have it at all?
Guess I read your last sentence literally.
> /rant on
>
> It also seems to me, that if Linux is to become a desktop system, it
> has to to become more user-friendly, not less. If it is only going to
> be used in the corporate workplace, then probably a lot of these
> protective devices need to be in place, but if I'm going to use it in
> my home--without any kids, even--then there should be a simple way to
> turn most of these protections off. There does not seem to be any real
> need to prevent the user from writing to most of the media, except the
> root files. There might be a simple setup to allow a few users (mom,
> Pop, and the kids) separate permissions, but the idea of preventing
> anyone from doing anything ever is ridiculous.
>
> And, even someone in an office might like to copy something to a floppy or a
> CD for safe keeping. Yeah, maybe Linux doesn't crash, but systems do.
>
> rant off/
>
It is *something* to make the desktop "more user-friendly". Linux is not
made to prevent "anyone from doing anything ever". Looks like you could
benefit from reading some texts about the linux system and why things are
the way they are. I would suggest for a start, the User's Guide and the
System Administrator's Manual that are delivered with SuSE's boxed set.
Perhaps this would relieve some of your frustrations and rantings.
gud luk,
--
Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535
http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org
HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/photos
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