C Hamel wrote:
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On Friday 21 May 2004 08:51, Basil Chupin wrote:
C Hamel wrote:
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Well, it's not restricted to an external modem as I mention in one of my msgs in the thread SUSE 9.1 - BAH!
But the reason I am writing here is I would like to add the following to help in your quest for finding the offending updated bit(s) which is causing so much angst (and I think that when the problem is solved both you and I ought to get a free upgrade copy of the next Suse, right?).
Today I decided to re-install (for the 11the time!) 9.1 but this time from the CDs and not the DVD. (This in itself I don't think may be too significant except for the fact that the application "tvtime" is not on the CDs but is installable on the DVD - interesting, eh?)
During the install, when it came to test the connection to my ISP I allowed this for the first time. The connection checked out OK and then the check was made for any patches to 9.1 - and this was accomplished in no time at all! amazing.
I then let the install process get the new updates for 9.1. Now, what happened next surprised me because the modem "flew" along without trying to catch its breath. I don't know what the thruput was but looking at the RD/SD from past experience it looked like it was close to the optimum bps.
After 4 hours of choofing along nicely I was cutoff by my ISP because I reached my time limit. However, in this time the following patches (below) were downloaded including 56% of the kernel source patch.
After I got disconnected I had to abort YOU and when I did it installed *most* of the patches and then the rest of the installation process carried on. The patches which were installed I have marked with an asterisk (below). It is one, or more of these patches, which is causing the problem - but which one?
Once the patches were installed, the rest of Suse was configured and I went to use YOU to finish the rest of the updates -- the wheels fell off! The modem was almost useless and I had to abort YOU (which you can't BTW by simply clicking on the ABORT button- you need to login as root and use the KILL command).
Anyway, the patches which were downloaded and installed (*) were (sorry, they are not in alphabetical order)-
bash * qt3 * kdelibs3 * xine-lib popt * aaa-base * libtiff * yast2-pam * gconf2 * kdebase3-SuSE * kphone * hp-office * i4l-base * kaffeine * module-init * wvdial * xine-ui * yast2-users * ncurses-5.4 * ncurses-devel kernel-default 54.5 netcfg * [noarch item]
So, at least one of the above requires assassination.
Cheers.
-- I am not young enough to know everything.
I would almost bet on gconf2, myself (I mistakenly called it gconf.d to someone else <LOL>). In the kernel logs no program was mentioned ...ever ...except for one time & that pkg was gconf2. For some reason, that reference was made just after the log statement indicating that echo was sent & not responded to.
I was afraid --and still am, to a point-- that I shall have to reinstall, myself. As I believe I already posted, I reverted the updates w/o reinstalling, and the modem started behaving much better! I was still getting chopped, but not nearly so quickly! The latest online foray has me going for nearly 10 hours, now; last evening it was 7.13 hours --I changed the DNS from 'automatic' & manually entered the IPs... that is all.
Someone else believes this distro was rushed. I would have to concur, I think. However, SuSE9 broke *completely* after updates; v9.1 is just severely crippled. Accidental or no, progress has been made.
Strange, but last Monday I said to my friend that, :Get and American company involved and the wheels fall off"; the next day there was an interesting article posted on www.theinquierer.net called 'SuSE's Frankenstein's monster' (it's now in the archives on the site if you go looking). Yes, I also think that it was rushed out - and this is not typical SuSE behaviour as displayed by past releases. Now back to the modem thing. A possible major clue to aid your research. I met up with my friend (mentioned above) an hour ago and he tells me that he is not having - nor had in the 4 installs he's done - with the modem. I questioned him and finally discovered he only installs/ed the DEFAULT software settings. He allowed YOU to update his system a couple of times. What this means is that his updates did not tinker with the files which I, and possibly you, installed when installing my system; and I always install All of KDE Multimedia Kernel Development and delete anything to do with Koffice. Cheers. -- I am not young enough to know everything.