Recently I was in contact with a ISP run by a midwestern company which is having problems being overrun by spam. Some like juno and myrealbox have addresses to which you can send spam received for them to improve filtering though I am not sure how good it is as I still get some spam on those services. As I understand it spam assassin is for client side control and smitespam is for the ISP side. But can spam assassin be used by an ISP perhaps with client submissions to control spam? If I can ill try to get them to see things our way. CWSIV ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!