On Wed, 18 Feb 2004, Steven T. Hatton wrote:
On Wednesday 18 February 2004 03:42 pm, Paul Cooke wrote:
and that's where it's /supposed/ to go... /local/ to your system. If you want it otherwise, then you've got to go and edit the resources to point to usr/ share instead.
To be pedantic, it means local to your site. Typically stuff that would be shared by several systems on a local network, more or less. I'm several revs back on this. And haven't looked at it in years, so things may have changed. But this is the gospel of /supposed to/ for Linux file systems.
The way I read the document years ago, suff such as the KDE is in the correct place on a SuSE box. Gnu wants to put everything in usr/local. Which isn't all that problematic because SuSE leaves that pretty much alone. IIRC, /usr/share is actually for apps shared on the box, not the network, but I would have to review to be sure.
i've used plenty of systems where the entire /usr tree (not including the /usr/local subtree which was usually empty anyway) was mounted from a remote machine via nfs. on most of them, everything not required to be local was an nfs mount.
as it stands now, i install anything i compile from source in /usr/local which i have as a separate partition so i can upgrade my distro without worrying that it might overwrite something i installed myself.
i'm glad that suse puts /opt to good use keeping major components like kde and gnome separate from the rest of the system so /usr/bin doesn't become the overcrowded nightmare it is in redhat.
-- trey Every time my 15 year old tried to goof off by inventing yet another way to do one of his chores, he was met with the simple truth that, the mundane things in life would be better off if they remained mundane. The same advice should be given to all open software developrs. While it is true that the originator of this thread was -as he himself plainly said- "ranting", there is still a lesson or two to be learned by this "ranting". Lesson one should be the realization that it is a ridiculocity to a: have each app choose an arbitrary file installation path AND b: lack the simple capacity to deal with stuff installed in not the expected path. these two issues alone probably account for a third or more of NEWBIE problems. Another third or so of the NEWBIE
On Wednesday 18 February 2004 11:43, Trey Gruel wrote: problems lie with the "comprehensive" incomprehensiveness of "full" distributions like SuSE. A very simple example of that is the almost total failure of yast in installing a samba printer! Just going "by the book" in the system i am writing this post from, has resulted in a setup under which my SuSE 9.0 can see the windoze machine where the printer is installed, alas, it will not print there. The maddening thing is that, after installation of an xp and a windoze 2k virtual machine in my vmware 4.0 (want a story on that too?, i got one!), BOTH doze vm's can see not only my SuSE system, but by going "through" it they reach the xp machine with the printer AND the printer installed in the xp machine!!!! BUT NOT MY NATIVE SuSE 9.0 OS!!!! All advertising and all indications of Yast had made it clear that the printer "was" available! Well, it was *not*! It took quite a bit of work and a bunch of "cryptic" (for a NEWBIE) commands as root to correct the situation! If SuSE can not find that printer as simply as 'windoze", then it should not advertise that it can... It is less than a third of the issues that a NEWBIE comes up against that should require help from a wonderful forum like this. Unfortunately, in a day or two, there will be yet another samba printer or sound thread. Yes, i got them both working thanks to this forum, however, if linux is to mount any sort of a threat to ms, i should not have had to use this forum, packman, mplayerhq.hu (nice and complete mplayer setup) and so on for some of the really basic stuff. AGAIN, PLEASE NOTE, i am talking about NEWBIES... and, unfortunately, I am asking open software developers to keep it simple, concistent and flexible with the inconcistensies of others. As much as some dislike that species, if it is going to happen, it is the NEWBIES who will make linux grand. imitris