A nice feature of the *box window managers and sawfish is that one can simply move windows around and resize them from the keyboard without fooling with a mouse. A convenient way to mimic the same thing with any windowmanager is a program called "epistrophy" that comes with openbox 2.3. There is a configuration file with lines like this: Control-Shift-Left moveWindowLeft 20; Control-Shift-Right moveWindowRight 20; Mod1-Shift-Up resizeWindowHeight -5; Mod1-Shift-Down resizeWindowHeight 5; This works on not only the *box window managers but also with kwin, icewm, the xfce window manager, and a few others. The directives like "moveWindowRight" are supposed to be standard. But metacity doesn't quite get it right: window movement directives go in the right direction plus two steps down, so trying to nudge a window up results in one step down, nudging it right goes right one step and down 2, etc. Anyone know if there are alternate ways to control metacity windows, e.g. alternate command names that could be sent it? Thanks, Henry Harpending ~