i guess the more windoze-like our linucses become, the more windoze-like they behave! Here is what i consider a pretty good example: First make sure everything is backed up and all apps are closed. Start your realplayer - i use it to hear news from the old country-, hook up to a station or something. then, for a change, forget about work and world, and click up a game of Klondike solitaire. then count the seconds or the minutes until the hard lockup. in my a7s333 - 1gb ram - ati rage pro128 it happens every time. sometimes in 10 seconds, sometimes in 10 minutes. suse 8.2 or 9.0 it reminds me of the old saying : Be careful what you wish, you might get it... it is a silly combination of apps and it is not important to me that this gets fixed, however it is amazing to me that something as simple as klondike can bring down a linux setup with 6-7 months uptime on the first try and then every single time after that... d.