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Re: [SLE] Something needs done about OT posting
- From: Jake Pumphrey <jake.pumphrey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2003 21:13:54 +0100
- Message-id: <200310052113.54475.jake.pumphrey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
I'm sorry this has happened Ben.
Surely newbies can have passion too?
Judging from the posts in this OT thread, it's questions which AREN'T along
the lines of: "Why X doesn't work" that meet with disapproval. You can't have
a list which insists on being technical only, without getting questions like
"why doesn't X work" surely?
I hear what you're saying though... and I'm sympathetic. I guess linux in
general (and SuSE in particular in this context) are changing fast...
and "your" mailing list is changing with it. Perhaps this is what drives
interested parties to ever more "difficult" and obscure distros?
Speaking as a newbie, I hope to God you people who know what you are doing
stick around. 8-)
Jake
On Sunday 05 October 2003 20:14, Ben Rosenberg wrote:
> * David Krider (david@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) [031005 09:03]:
> >Doesn't anyone else notice that a non-insignificant portion of the posts
> >on suse-linux-e don't have anything to do with _SuSE_, per se, anyway?
> >By that reasoning, almost 50% of the list is off-topic. At least the
> >sorts of things I'm campaigning about being allowed to post are related
> >to SuSE specifically.
>
> Well, until a little while ago thsuse-linux-e@xxxxxxxxxx was a community
list or so it
> seemed. But since we've had an influx of ex-<whatever distro> and
> ex-windows users it's become quite crowded and the off topic posts and
> heated discussions have become to much for this list. I don't deny that.
> But in the last couple years this list has lost that sense of community
> that it once had. With all the Nazi like posting, netiquette and other such
> behavior attacks it's become just another tech list. Sometimes I don't know
> why I stay subscribed. I mean with no sense of community it's just more
> questions about " Why X doesn't work.." " Why ppp or DSL doesn't work "
> and quite frankly most of those questions and situation have little
> interest for me. For most of the questions I have ..I can google them
> and get the same dull, sanitized feeling that this list has lately. So
> when you newbies to the list get all bent out of shape remember
> this..it's you who killed the homey, community feel of this list and
> made it feel like a hospital room. It's you who are detrimental to this
> list. Not the people with passion. I liked it much better when this list
> had that Cheers feel to it ..you know where everybody knows your name.
>
> Anyway. I'll just crawl back into my corner. ;)
>
> /end my 0.02
>
> --
> Ben Rosenberg ---===---===---===--- mailto:ben@xxxxxxxxx
> -----
> If two men agree on everything, you can be sure that only
> one of them is doing the thinking.
Surely newbies can have passion too?
Judging from the posts in this OT thread, it's questions which AREN'T along
the lines of: "Why X doesn't work" that meet with disapproval. You can't have
a list which insists on being technical only, without getting questions like
"why doesn't X work" surely?
I hear what you're saying though... and I'm sympathetic. I guess linux in
general (and SuSE in particular in this context) are changing fast...
and "your" mailing list is changing with it. Perhaps this is what drives
interested parties to ever more "difficult" and obscure distros?
Speaking as a newbie, I hope to God you people who know what you are doing
stick around. 8-)
Jake
On Sunday 05 October 2003 20:14, Ben Rosenberg wrote:
> * David Krider (david@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) [031005 09:03]:
> >Doesn't anyone else notice that a non-insignificant portion of the posts
> >on suse-linux-e don't have anything to do with _SuSE_, per se, anyway?
> >By that reasoning, almost 50% of the list is off-topic. At least the
> >sorts of things I'm campaigning about being allowed to post are related
> >to SuSE specifically.
>
> Well, until a little while ago thsuse-linux-e@xxxxxxxxxx was a community
list or so it
> seemed. But since we've had an influx of ex-<whatever distro> and
> ex-windows users it's become quite crowded and the off topic posts and
> heated discussions have become to much for this list. I don't deny that.
> But in the last couple years this list has lost that sense of community
> that it once had. With all the Nazi like posting, netiquette and other such
> behavior attacks it's become just another tech list. Sometimes I don't know
> why I stay subscribed. I mean with no sense of community it's just more
> questions about " Why X doesn't work.." " Why ppp or DSL doesn't work "
> and quite frankly most of those questions and situation have little
> interest for me. For most of the questions I have ..I can google them
> and get the same dull, sanitized feeling that this list has lately. So
> when you newbies to the list get all bent out of shape remember
> this..it's you who killed the homey, community feel of this list and
> made it feel like a hospital room. It's you who are detrimental to this
> list. Not the people with passion. I liked it much better when this list
> had that Cheers feel to it ..you know where everybody knows your name.
>
> Anyway. I'll just crawl back into my corner. ;)
>
> /end my 0.02
>
> --
> Ben Rosenberg ---===---===---===--- mailto:ben@xxxxxxxxx
> -----
> If two men agree on everything, you can be sure that only
> one of them is doing the thinking.
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