Ben Rosenberg (ben@whack.org) wrote: Hello Ben! I'll miss your posts on the list (I have some simpathy with you coming from the same background - OS/2 :-)
So a two hour turn around on OpenSSH wasn't good enough? I can say your never going to get the blood red bleeding edge stuff out of SuSE..it just won't happen. SuSE just isn't into that sort of thing. This would be why they patched OpenSSH 3.5p1 instead of just making 3.7.1p1 packages and letting the chips fall where they may. They know that things break and that us long time SLE'ers get REALLY pissed off when 1000's of emails come through with blah, blah and blah is broken. So they do try to keep that to a minimum. Thank God.
There is no rush to constant updating. I can do "emerge sync" whenever I like, and emerge whatever I want. So many spams is received daily (athough ASK is catching them) here, and I was not pissed off with some emails coming through. Instead it was quite humorous reading some of the posts of guys trying to combat the situation :-)
Just do what I do..compile the src yourself and make rpm's. :)
Yeah, I noticed that I'm doing too mcuh of compiling src, so why not having everything from source, and btw, I started on Gentoo with binary packages for X, KDE .. :-)
The Gentoo thing is that all of one's software has been optimised for whatever system it's running on because it's all been compiled by the user. It seems like a lot of work for those of us who actual have jobs, wives/husbands and just lives in general. :) It's all the hip thing now for some reason..it's not all uber corp. in nature. Or at least those are some of the reasons I've heard / read.
Moreover, my system is much cleaner than before since it was built in small steps and there are no tons of packages I don't really need. Last point, I'm running Celeron 686 with 256MB and have only ISDN dialup - it's probably not very common setup for someone in US - have wife, and have many other obligations ... bnd still can manage Gentoo. From time to time I can afford to run: emerge -pv package to check what will happen (similar to apt-get -s). Then, download package with: emerge -f package When the package(s) are downloaded, they are easily emerged with: emerge package(s) and everything will be nicely compiled (in the background) and installed. The last step is soemthing like: rc-update and/or etc-update to update config files and/or add some script to the boot processs. Optimised system was not a buyer for me, but it was a more comfortable and capable package system. Bit, there are no bad feelings with SuSE. It just happened that I've found something that suits me more :-) Sincerely, Gour -- Gour gour@mail.inet.hr Registered Linux User #278493