begin Ben Rosenberg's quote: | If I'm reading this right then your saying that newer hardware | won't work with the "kernel" acpi which isn't "SuSE's acpi"? I | could be reading this wrong but in case I'm not the I would hope | that someone could explain to me why all of my hardware works | perfectly with 8.2 and I have disabled nothing in fact all I | changed after the install was having both of my CD drives use the | ide-scsi module. Other then that I've changed nothing. no. i was responding to the suggestion that *all* hardware newer than 5 years old *needs* acpi, and pointing out that not only does it not need it, some -- much if what others have said here are to believed, and i find no reason to disbelieve them -- will not work with it. my point is that it *doesn't* have anything to do with the age of the hardware (though i suppose that sufficiently old hardware would not work with it, also). as to who "owns" the acpi that shows up on 8.2 cds, i don't think that has ever been the point, the issue being how suse's installer handles it. -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere.