** Here be Dragons friend , trod lightly ,lest you find yourself in a flame , w/ no breath mints handy. Do the times it takes to load the database of items in YOU take and inordinate amount of time? Even after a successfull update it seems to take an eternity to go back and get anything that one didnt' retrieve the first time I have done three updates today and they get no faster ( two were for yast2 itself and one to get some of the security and other fixes... now I'm trying to get , as someone else mentioned the latest kde3 and decimals update(s) but it has been sitting at the point where it claims to be "initializing for ftp/http update one moment please ( it's been five, but who's counting <G>) -- j afterthought If you can't be good, be careful