On Mon, 14 Oct 2002, Carlos just had to get this off his chest:
The 02.10.13 at 19:46, Theo v. Werkhoven wrote:
I'm sorry to disagree. For example, pine, which is not a windoze program, by default "top-posts".
No it doesn't. It places the cursor on top of the quoted text, but that's what Mutt and other MUA's and newsreaders let the editor do aswell.
It also places the signature two lines below the "leader" line, above the quoted text. At least, by default.
Then you need to adjust the relevant option in Pine. In Mutt this option has a big warning saying that lot's of folks won't appreciate it, and the default is to put the sig where it belongs, on the bottom.
That is *not* so you can start typing at that point, it is done, so that you can start trimming off irrelevant text from that point down. Is it really that hard to do? Delete text to a piece of quoted text where you want to reply to, type your response, delete text down to the next piece of text you want to reply to etc.
That's what I usually do :-)
But it takes longer, and seems to be against what is customary in most businesses: they claim that a sort answer is easier to see at the top of the message, specially when there are dozens or hundred of emails to process. Also they dislike somebody else trimiming what they said, because the exact meaning can be altered.
When you're in a I2I conversation you try to be nice, and give polite answers and remarks don't you? You're not trying to mouth off someone just because it would save you a few minutes. Why then would you think your time is so precious in an email conversation that it makes it ok to screw up a logically arranged top-to-bottom discussion by putting ones comment on top of all that's been said before?
Ignoring the relevant RFC1855 in mailing lists and usenet posts is just plain rude and totally disrespectful of the people the you might want to get help from.
Sorry: I didn't know it was required RFC training to write here. No mention of that in the subscription form :-p
It's basic politeness and etiquette to learn some "how to get along" rules before you engage in a mixed company. Same thing you do when you start a new job, get to know new friends etc.
Anyway, the RFC docs are no longer included with the suse distro.
And one google click away is too much I'm sure.
For me it is very simple: topposter and bulkquoters will be ignored, period.
If it suits yourself... Me, I'm more tolerant.
Good for you, but my life is way too short, and the number of lists and newsgroups I read way to big to try to keep up with every topposters comment and the context it's suppost to fit in, or to find a 'me too' somewhere on the bottom of a 10k message.
-- Cheers, Carlos Robinson
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