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Re: [SLE] Yast 2 SUCKS !!!
This is getting sooooooooo boring :o{
can we move on..............

Keith Gibbons, Ireland

----- Original Message -----
From: "Philipp Thomas" <philippt@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <suse-linux-e@xxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 10:35 PM
Subject: Re: [SLE] Yast 2 SUCKS !!!


> Hi Fábio,
>
> Fábio Rabelo <fabior@xxxxxxxxxxxx> [ Thu, 01 Aug 2002 09:36:47 -0300]:
>
>
> >Things like "run level editor" was exatly what I'm "running away from"
> >when I migrate to Suse since version 6.1, it is what I call "steps back"
.
>
> No, it's definitely a step forward! After we introduced LSB conforming
> init scripts and the necessary tools which LSB calls for, it was the
> next logical step to remove the START_xxxx variables and to depend
> solely one runlevel links.
>
> And the move away from rc.config didn't happen overnight, simply
> because a monolithic rc.config gets very hard to handle. So the first
> move was splitting off parts to /etc/rc.config.d (somewhere 7.2 or
> 7.3) and then /etc/rc.config.d more or less moved to /etc/sysconfig.
>
> >I've been using Suse just because it can do this job in a "simple and
> >practic" way, if Suse no longer can do it in the same way, I'll migrate
> >to another one !
>
> Using the runlevel editor in YaST2 or editing the appropriate init
> script and then calling insserv *is* both simple *and* practical!
> It's just not the same way it was before.
>
> But if you don't like it, nobody's holding you. So use another
> distribution.
>
> >I, in my name and in name of all of my clients, have the rights to
> >scream!!
>
> Scream as much as you want, but don't expect others to chime in.
>
> >"Suse can be reaching a lot of new clients with 8.0, but can be loosing
> >a lot of old clients too !
> >Suse can afford it ???"
>
> Hmm, latest sales figures indicate that 8.0 is doing very well indeed
> and has the potential to become SuSE's best selling distribution yet.
> So it seems we don't loose that much but rather gain.
>
> >I don't "WANT TO" use another distro, it depends of what Suse will do
> >with 8.1 !
>
> Well, more changes and IMHO quite a few goodies. But rc.config will
> not come back and the runlevel editor is here to stay.
>
> >and one last question : If 8.0 is "so good" why the last upgrades of
> >corporate products fo Suse ( Email Server, Enterprise Server,
> >Connectivity Server ) is based on 7.3 and NOT in 8.0 ???
>
> Because we've guaranteed our customers at least two years of
> maintenance. Business users go for stability and 'never touch a
> running system'. That's why the business products are based on SLES7,
> which again is AFAIK 7.2 based.
>
> BTW, SuSE Linux 8.1 will be the base of our SuSE Linux Enterprise
> Server 8 (powered by United Linux :).
>
> Philipp
>
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