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Re: [SLE] SuSE 8.0 trash
- From: Alex Daniloff <alex@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 12:03:31 -0700
- Message-id: <200206171903.g5HJ3Vk04578@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Eric,
> As well as every user of a Linux distro has the right to painless
and quick
> installs of the programs that enable them to be productive.
This right of painless and quick installation is not guaranteed by any
Linux distro nether evil M$.
Read carefully their disclaimers and M$ EULA.
You can have this right if you're taking responsibility of bying
commercial support for your distro. Free cheese is only in a mouse
trap.
> Congratulations on all of the distros you're installed. Please
don't
> insinuate that those of us who don't have the time you do, aren't
worthy of
> Linux.
Well, I installed and configured many Linux distros not because I
wanted to be more geeky than you are.
My work tasks and project requirements forced me to do so.
>
> I'm not saying you are just a non-productive geek. Far from it.
Because of
> people like you distros get refined. Because of people like you
Linux
> becomes a worthy competitor to MS$.
>
I can't take credits for refining Lunux distros you're giving me.
I'm using Linux as a tool my day to day tasks, development and nothing
more.
> But, at the same time please realize that I need to get a database
up and
> running that has a web interface. I'm not productive if I have to
spend
> hours trying to figure out what environment variables and paths need
to be
> set to get the database, Perl, and Java up and running. Conflicts?
What
> conflicts? :-))
>
See the issue?
You can't get something for nothing.
If you didn't spend a dime on commercial preconfigured environment
with DB, Perl and Java you have to spend your time to build it on your
own.
> Presently it takes minutes on a MS$ OS whereas hours on Linux
because the
> distro I'm using doesn't have the same files in a location some
other distro
> has.
>
M$ is a standardized commercial system with each bell and whisle for
an additional price.
Linux is an open system with multiple distros to choose from.
Pick up the right one for you and stick with it.
If something is not included,get a tar ball or compile it from the
sources.
What do you expect?
Just to spend a few bucks for boxen Linux distro with tons of free
soft which starts to work for you righ out of the box?
You can calculate what it would cost to you if you were using the same
number of commercial software for your projects vs. free soft.
You have to cover a part of this difference in price with your time by
studing the system and RTFM.
It will be beneficial for you in a long run
Alex
> As well as every user of a Linux distro has the right to painless
and quick
> installs of the programs that enable them to be productive.
This right of painless and quick installation is not guaranteed by any
Linux distro nether evil M$.
Read carefully their disclaimers and M$ EULA.
You can have this right if you're taking responsibility of bying
commercial support for your distro. Free cheese is only in a mouse
trap.
> Congratulations on all of the distros you're installed. Please
don't
> insinuate that those of us who don't have the time you do, aren't
worthy of
> Linux.
Well, I installed and configured many Linux distros not because I
wanted to be more geeky than you are.
My work tasks and project requirements forced me to do so.
>
> I'm not saying you are just a non-productive geek. Far from it.
Because of
> people like you distros get refined. Because of people like you
Linux
> becomes a worthy competitor to MS$.
>
I can't take credits for refining Lunux distros you're giving me.
I'm using Linux as a tool my day to day tasks, development and nothing
more.
> But, at the same time please realize that I need to get a database
up and
> running that has a web interface. I'm not productive if I have to
spend
> hours trying to figure out what environment variables and paths need
to be
> set to get the database, Perl, and Java up and running. Conflicts?
What
> conflicts? :-))
>
See the issue?
You can't get something for nothing.
If you didn't spend a dime on commercial preconfigured environment
with DB, Perl and Java you have to spend your time to build it on your
own.
> Presently it takes minutes on a MS$ OS whereas hours on Linux
because the
> distro I'm using doesn't have the same files in a location some
other distro
> has.
>
M$ is a standardized commercial system with each bell and whisle for
an additional price.
Linux is an open system with multiple distros to choose from.
Pick up the right one for you and stick with it.
If something is not included,get a tar ball or compile it from the
sources.
What do you expect?
Just to spend a few bucks for boxen Linux distro with tons of free
soft which starts to work for you righ out of the box?
You can calculate what it would cost to you if you were using the same
number of commercial software for your projects vs. free soft.
You have to cover a part of this difference in price with your time by
studing the system and RTFM.
It will be beneficial for you in a long run
Alex
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