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Re: [SLE] OK, Now I'm Actually Scared
- From: Alex Daniloff <alex@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 10:55:17 -0700
- Message-id: <200206121755.g5CHtIs19101@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Well,
In average it takes me from one to two months with the each new SuSE
release to make it usable.
Generally I have to fix leftover bugs, find missing/corrupted packages
and manually edit configuration files which are generally being
screwed by YAST.
I prefer to compile and install such packages as MySQL, Apache,
Mozilla, kernel, modutils, ALSA, CUPS and other directly from its
sources, not from SuSE CD/DVD. SuSE have a bad habit of such excessive
customization that later you won't be able to upgrade some packages
from its direct vendors.
It's still a mystery for me.
Why binaries, libraries and configuration files for third party
applications can't be left in its default locations defined by the
vendors?
Alex
-------------------
> .
> Ever since I reinstalled 8 clean (after an initial clean install of
8 that was
> bad), I have not been able to complete a shutdown. Always hangs on
Shutting
> Down Networking.
>
> But today I went to add a Gateway:
> Y2|Network/Basic|NetworkCardConfig|Edit|Edit|Routingand add Gateway.
> OK|Next|Finish
>
> It HANGS ON DEACTIVATE LOCAL NETWORK! And I have to kill it!
> WTF IS WRONG?
>
> WHY HAS VMWARE GUEST QUIT TALKING TO THE NETWORK? WHY DOES
> KONQ BYPASS JUNKBUASTER? AND WHY HAS PRINTING NEVER WORKED?!? I
MUST BE ABLE
> TO COMMUNICATE AND FSCKING PRINT!!
>
> I have used Suse for a year and Mandrake for two years before that,
and this
> new BROKENNESS is INTOLERABLE. HUNDREDS of things WRONG. I have a
mortgage
> investment banking business to run, and most of the past month has
been fully
> given over to Suse 8!
>
> I know those guys are busy. But this is an unusable product!
Hundreds of
> problems I simply don't have time to chase down! Whoops, KMAlL HAS
NOW
> COMPLETELY FORGOTTEN ALL ITS SETTINGS, so now I have to completely
configure
> it in order to send this message.
>
> Caldera is a mess. RedHat has always been buggy. I am just this
close to
> chucking it and going to Apple. I MUST GET WORK DONE IN ORDER TO
SURVIVE!!
>
>
>
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> To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxx
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>
In average it takes me from one to two months with the each new SuSE
release to make it usable.
Generally I have to fix leftover bugs, find missing/corrupted packages
and manually edit configuration files which are generally being
screwed by YAST.
I prefer to compile and install such packages as MySQL, Apache,
Mozilla, kernel, modutils, ALSA, CUPS and other directly from its
sources, not from SuSE CD/DVD. SuSE have a bad habit of such excessive
customization that later you won't be able to upgrade some packages
from its direct vendors.
It's still a mystery for me.
Why binaries, libraries and configuration files for third party
applications can't be left in its default locations defined by the
vendors?
Alex
-------------------
> .
> Ever since I reinstalled 8 clean (after an initial clean install of
8 that was
> bad), I have not been able to complete a shutdown. Always hangs on
Shutting
> Down Networking.
>
> But today I went to add a Gateway:
> Y2|Network/Basic|NetworkCardConfig|Edit|Edit|Routingand add Gateway.
> OK|Next|Finish
>
> It HANGS ON DEACTIVATE LOCAL NETWORK! And I have to kill it!
> WTF IS WRONG?
>
> WHY HAS VMWARE GUEST QUIT TALKING TO THE NETWORK? WHY DOES
> KONQ BYPASS JUNKBUASTER? AND WHY HAS PRINTING NEVER WORKED?!? I
MUST BE ABLE
> TO COMMUNICATE AND FSCKING PRINT!!
>
> I have used Suse for a year and Mandrake for two years before that,
and this
> new BROKENNESS is INTOLERABLE. HUNDREDS of things WRONG. I have a
mortgage
> investment banking business to run, and most of the past month has
been fully
> given over to Suse 8!
>
> I know those guys are busy. But this is an unusable product!
Hundreds of
> problems I simply don't have time to chase down! Whoops, KMAlL HAS
NOW
> COMPLETELY FORGOTTEN ALL ITS SETTINGS, so now I have to completely
configure
> it in order to send this message.
>
> Caldera is a mess. RedHat has always been buggy. I am just this
close to
> chucking it and going to Apple. I MUST GET WORK DONE IN ORDER TO
SURVIVE!!
>
>
>
> --
> To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxx
> For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@xxxxxxxx
> Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com
>
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