There was a discussion last week about using another window manager besides KDE or Gnome, and I chipped in with the suggestion that you can set your window manager permanently to XFCE (or whatever WM you like) by editing file .xinitrc in your home directory to include a line like this: exec xfwm I was using Redhat 7.2 at the time I wrote that - it was before I installed SuSE 8.0 (I installed it yesterday). Now I see that particular method doesn't work with SuSE. What you have to do is set the $WINDOWMANAGER variable (Redhat doesn't set a $WINDOWMANAGER variable). You do this by editing file .bashrc in your home directory by adding a line like this: export WINDOWMANAGER=/usr/X11R6/bin/xfwm The above is for XFCE. If you prefer Windowmaker, then: export WINDOWMANAGER=/usr/X11R6/bin/windowmaker It's annoying that Redhat and SuSE don't handle this issue the same way. Another little challenge for us users. I also previously gave the advice that Kmail runs rather slowly outside of KDE and suggested that Sylpheed was good because it's nice and fast. Well, that's still true, but I've found in SuSE 8.0 that Sylpheed has been "improved" so that it crashes whenever I hit the "reply" button. So I'm back to using Kmail. It's slow, but it does have nice features, and I'll no doubt give Evolution a test run. - Robert