* dep (dep@linuxandmain.com) [020526 18:54]: ::begin Ben Rosenberg's quote: ::| Well, I removed every Ximian rpm on the machine and all it's config ::| files. I installed the Gnome rpm's from the supp. directory on ::| SuSE's ftp server..all of them. And you know what I am beginning to ::| thing that having Evolution 1.0.5 running after the last upgrade ::| prior to the apt fiasco was a fluke. Screw Gnome.. :: ::the tales are many and terrifying that have to do with dueling gnomes. ::a good friend of mine one day said to me, "my sister's grandchildren ::will be telling their children of the tragic day that their great ::uncle michael installed ximian gnome on debian potato." some of the ::worst, though, have to do with duels between the red hat network's ::update service and red carpet. there are recorded cases where they're ::installing and uninstalling their own and each other's stuff *at the ::same time*! and this is going to get worse and worse and worse as ::distributions and NDEs (non-distribution entities) all increase the ::apparent sophistication of their update services, which increasingly ::tie the user not just to binaries but to binaries from the ::distributor only. which will fubar linux in general in many ways, not ::the lest being the functional equivalent of forking ala the unices. ::they're cutting the baby into pieces, never stopping to think that ::when they do that all they can possibly end up with is a piece of a ::dead baby. Yep. And the answer to it all for me is KDE. I've never had those issues with KDE..even KDE3 worked with little effort for me. Gnome is such a clusterfuck as Clint Eastwood said in Heartbreak Ridge. :) -=Ben --=====-----=====-- mailto:ben@whack.org --=====-- If it's true that our species is alone in the universe, then I'd have to say that the universe aimed rather low and settled for very little. -GC --=====-----=====--