Just some comments on my first experiences trying to install 8.0... 1st try - Dell Dimension xps200pro ppro200/128M/4G - booting from CD1 gave me an error, told me to try booting from CD2 - CD2 booted, began the install, searched for braille display, went to black screen with 'wristwatch' icon, and hung there for >45 minutes, at which time I powered down. 2nd try - AMD K62-500/256M/20G - CD1 booted successfully. The 'wristwatch' screen which hung me on the other system only lasted a minute or so, during which there was much CD and disk activity to reassure me that something ws happening. - I first selected the 'update system' option, so that it would mount and read my current config. Then I immediately hit the 'back' button, and selected 'new installation'. - I created new partitions on the disk for / and /home. - I went into 'detailed package selection' and was delighted to see that it indeed had already discovered everything I had installed in my old 7.2 system! - I browsed the list anyway, selecting a few new toys for me to play with this time around... - I immediately got a message that 'RPM returned an error' with no explanation. When I clicked OK, the installation proceeded. - During the installation phase, the time estimates quickly became overly optimistic. The progress meter on CD1 quickly went to 100%, then it continued to install about 40 more packages while I stood there waiting for the CD2 prompt to appear.... - Reboot. Asked me to remove the media. After rebooting, yast never fully painted the window, or gave any prompt, until I put CD1 back in the drive, at which time it finally asked me for CD2. - Loading of the rpms from CD2-5 was uneventful. Initial configuration: Printer: In addition to the default 300dpi, 600dpi, and greyscale queues, I set up a 'raw' queue, and discovered that yast won't conveniently set up a text-only queue. Oh, well, I've done that manually before, I can do it again. I like a simple anti-stairstep filter, without wasting resources sending text thru a2ps and ghostscript. Modem: My ISP isn't in the list, so I found nothing I could configure. It did find my modem, but it didn't give me the option to create /dev/modem and leave it at that. What's it going to do with my ISP, anyway? set up wvdial, kinternet, kppp? Which? All? Video: I declared my monitor, and tried several denser resolution settings, finally deciding on 1280x960x24bpp. - Proceed. It saves my configs, starts X, and up comes a KDM panel. Where's the cursor??? I log in as root, and KDE3 starts up. I even hear the opening sounds, but still no cursor! Red background is ugly to me, and I can't figure out why the choice of christmas-tree ornaments. Then the gestalt shifts, and I see exploding bombs. Good choice to remind me that I'm logged in as root! I trust as an ordinary user I'll get something more benign... I manage to navigate a bit from the keyboard, but I'm fumbling. I play with my mouse, and discover it's working, since as I slowly move it about the desktop, I see actions indicative of the mouse hovering over buttons, icons, etc. I like the 'swelling' icons on the panel much better than OSX's too-gaudy magnification/warping effect. The mouse buttons seem to work as well. At this point, I get frustrated enough to turn to the laptop to write this report. I don't feel like continuing to feel about in the dark, trying to continue my configuration. I vaguely remember somebody reporting a similar 'hidden cursor' effect back with 7.2 or 7.3, so I'll go searching the archives.... Anybody have the fix for this closer to the top of the stack? Rick Green