okies, got 8.0 installed w/ much less trauma than expected.So that's very nice The system update also went very quickly... There are a few strange things, for instance ,the first "jarring" bit is NO floppies, even tho the packaged books refer to them as being "in the box" install floppy and , I'm guessing a modules floppy. and tehn there's this: although it finds both the ide cdrecorder ( as it's designated) and the scsi cdrom , it refuses to play music from the cdrecorder, and that is the one w/ the sound card installed on it ( well, it only makes sense if you ever want to check the sound I supose. but as 7.3 never could decide which one ought to do what ( fortunately, xcdroast sorted them pretty quickly, but that apparent;y is not something I can pass to the cd player(s) , apparently. I love the neat backgrounds guys ... genral kudos to the team that must've sweated blood to have so much work out of the box , and thank goodness, no more of that stupid kinternet icon.( especially as it isn't needed here. <G>) Either I'm more easily pleased , or it's a great product. And there are enough fixes in it to make it definatly worth the price. But , I join in hte general condemnation of no more stickers... <sigh> Please, SuSE, don't loose your playful streek. It's very endeering <G>