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Re: [SLE] RedHat -v- SuSE 8.0 - My opinion
- From: Philipp Thomas <pthomas@xxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 14:22:39 +0200
- Message-id: <g8oncu852572qjdsv9t2ji2u4gsb71pr9p@xxxxxxx>
Al Sutton <al@xxxxxxxxxxxx> [ Sun, 28 Apr 2002 12:42:36 +0100]:
>and so I've decided to switch back to the freely downloadable edition of
>RedHat 7.2.
If you're happy with that, so be it.
>1) SuSE 8.0 doesn't recognise my IOMega ZIP CD (which is about two years old),
>whereas RedHat has done for a number of months.
I don't know what's special about the ZIP CD. How is it connected to
the computer?
>This makes me nervous as to which other devices are supported within the Linux
>kernel, but not in SuSE.
What do you mean by not supported? That the hardware scan doesn't find
the devices? That you can't configure the device via YaST2?
Things like lm_sensors work on SuSE Linux yet you can't configure them
via YaST2.
>2) SuSE 8.0's support for wireless PCMCIA networking is appauling, and I can't
>justify it's use on laptops on this basis. RedHat's configuration interface
>treats wireless networking as just another ethernet device if you want to do
>simple interface.
Care to expand? I might then be able to reply.
>4) I am unable to download a CD image to do installation from, which means I'm
>at the mercy of my CD's not being lost, and if they are I have to buy a new
>set.
Oh, you're unable to make images from the CDs you bought? Funny that
you're able to use images to install from. Really, this argument is
ridiculous.
>5) To install NFS server support I have to install a set of packages which
>YaST complains may cause problems with each other.
This simply isn't true! Please tell me where you think YaST2
complained.
>6) SuSE complains if I try perform an installation from CD and then try to
>install packages from the DVD. Aren't they the same, and if not why not?
They used to differ slightly in contents as there's a bit more space
on the DVD. But even if YaST2 complains, you're able to continue
working, so what's the hassle?
>My final opinion of the product is that it's unfinished and therefore not
>suitable for use in productions systems.
Funny that companies like Oracle or SAP certify SuSE Linux then,
wouldn't you think?
>I'm of the opinion that if it's not integrated into SuSE's tools then SuSE
>probably don't want you to use it.
That's making it too simple. As we don't have limitless resources,
neither in time nor developers, we have to make priorities. So things
were many will profit are implemented earlier then those where only
few will profit.
Philipp
PS: I've written to you both directly and via the list because I
wanted to make sure you get my reply. But please only answer
privately *or* via the list, not both.
>and so I've decided to switch back to the freely downloadable edition of
>RedHat 7.2.
If you're happy with that, so be it.
>1) SuSE 8.0 doesn't recognise my IOMega ZIP CD (which is about two years old),
>whereas RedHat has done for a number of months.
I don't know what's special about the ZIP CD. How is it connected to
the computer?
>This makes me nervous as to which other devices are supported within the Linux
>kernel, but not in SuSE.
What do you mean by not supported? That the hardware scan doesn't find
the devices? That you can't configure the device via YaST2?
Things like lm_sensors work on SuSE Linux yet you can't configure them
via YaST2.
>2) SuSE 8.0's support for wireless PCMCIA networking is appauling, and I can't
>justify it's use on laptops on this basis. RedHat's configuration interface
>treats wireless networking as just another ethernet device if you want to do
>simple interface.
Care to expand? I might then be able to reply.
>4) I am unable to download a CD image to do installation from, which means I'm
>at the mercy of my CD's not being lost, and if they are I have to buy a new
>set.
Oh, you're unable to make images from the CDs you bought? Funny that
you're able to use images to install from. Really, this argument is
ridiculous.
>5) To install NFS server support I have to install a set of packages which
>YaST complains may cause problems with each other.
This simply isn't true! Please tell me where you think YaST2
complained.
>6) SuSE complains if I try perform an installation from CD and then try to
>install packages from the DVD. Aren't they the same, and if not why not?
They used to differ slightly in contents as there's a bit more space
on the DVD. But even if YaST2 complains, you're able to continue
working, so what's the hassle?
>My final opinion of the product is that it's unfinished and therefore not
>suitable for use in productions systems.
Funny that companies like Oracle or SAP certify SuSE Linux then,
wouldn't you think?
>I'm of the opinion that if it's not integrated into SuSE's tools then SuSE
>probably don't want you to use it.
That's making it too simple. As we don't have limitless resources,
neither in time nor developers, we have to make priorities. So things
were many will profit are implemented earlier then those where only
few will profit.
Philipp
PS: I've written to you both directly and via the list because I
wanted to make sure you get my reply. But please only answer
privately *or* via the list, not both.
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