ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/mantel/accessibility/k_deflt-2.4.18-104.i386.rpm Dated April 23rd on the server. Has anyone given this one a whirl yet? I'm downloading it now, but the last mantel kernel took out my sound, though it got my webcam to work. (And yes, I know these aren't official releases nor should they be considered stable, so that's not a complaint! :-) I'm really needing a 2.4.18 release for 7.3 to get my webcam working (dadgum proprietary driver...). So I'm risking these. If this one can work as well as the last one I checked, but *not* make my sound card disappear, I'll be a happy camper. ;-) Joe --------------------------------------------------- The surgeon general has determined that using Microsoft products may be hazardous to your wallet. And your computer. ---------------------------------------------------