Ok the box arived today (at last!!!!!) Install on my main laptop went very smoothly. The packages are much better organized in this version than they were in 7.3. Now the only problem I am having is with my lucent orinoco gold wireless card. I can't for the life of me get it setup. Yast2 has ALWAYS been useless for this task. But in the past it was a trivial manual setup. Set eth0 up with pcmcia modual. Then edit /etc/pcmcia/wireless.opts file to the ESSID, MODE and KEY values that I use here at the house. Do a depmod -a then a ifconfig eth0 up and all was good from then on out. With SuSE 8.0 there are many more config files and none of them seem to help in any way. Setting up /etc/pcmcia/wireless.opts as always only gets me errors in boot.msg as it tries to configure "lo" as a wireless card. No luck in the docs on setting up wireless cards in the new boot system. Any ideas? Charles Hutchinson P.S. GIVE ME BACK YAST1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!