On Sat, 2002-02-16 at 09:06, Dwaine Felch wrote:
Linux upgrades are bug fixes for the previous buggy OS, in case you are too blind to see that. No free upgrades from M$, what do you call each version of Explorer. Security holes? I have an inbox full of linux security updates just in the last month, M$ security holes are widely advertised and linux holes are overlooked by the media.
Oh, do you mean that one hole in an older app that happens to then be repeated across a wide range of distributions as they each issue their own advisory? Ever notice that most security holes happen to be local on Linux whilst Windows ones tended to be remote?
One independent government study showed linux had more holes than Mac or Win2k.
Got a link to that?
In my 20 years as a IT specialist I have tested more different OSs and computer hardware configurations than your shallow mind could ever dream of. I enjoy a healthy different opinion that is how we learn. Your intolerance to someone else experience probably gets you nowhere in life.
Don't ever boast about how many years experience you have, anyone with a few years worth of experience knows this raises a red flag. Why? Well I helped a Sys Admin with 30 years experience setup Sendmail so it could actually send and receive e-mail from outside the box. One of many reasons to not trumpet your horn about "20" years experience. Just like that techie who blinds some newbie with "techno-babble" to win an argument. I don't fall for it, nor do many others who probably have more experience than you do. Your arguments were weak without actually being backed up. Your arguments were delivered as fact, this is fine as long as they are worded as an opinion, which in your case they were not. Matt PS This is OT, but you've been slewing lots of factual errors, so it ends here as this place is to discuss SuSE Linux.
-----Original Message----- From: James Bliss [mailto:bliss@attbi.com] Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 7:43 AM To: Dwaine Felch Cc: suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: Re: [SLE] installing suse 7.3 - again ;))
Ah, nice to see a Microsoft Shill posting. Actually, there are free upgrades, you just need to put forth some effort to acquire them. Unlike Microsoft for which there are no free upgrades, the upgades are generally bug fixes of the previous buggy OS, and there are tremendous numbers of security holes which the user is paying good money to install on their computer.
Glad you like 2000, it crashes rather consistently on my system while SuSE linux does not. Faster? what the hell are you doing, running 2000 on a P 4 and running linux on a 486?
Get a life, most of the people on this list know the truth.
02/16/02 09:09:11 AM, Dwaine Felch <dwainef@earthlink.net> wrote:
As linux companies get a taste of money they have started to become like Microsoft, as we know is one of the best at raking in revenue. Just in the past year or year and half Suse and Mandrake had two releases each with no free upgrades. Suse quit providing ISOs for x86; with each turn of the corner linux companies decrease benefits and scam you for more money, this will continue to increase.
In the coming years linux marketing will be no different than the other evil empire. It won't be long and people will be angry at linux and be looking for alternatives.
Myself have found Windows 2000 a much better OS than any linux I've worked with, W2k always runs faster and has a well laid out GUI with polished features; KDE is clunky and slow with a 100x more bugs and hicups than you will ever find in Windows 2000.
I think Microsoft is excellent at developing a product if they concentrated there efforts on a version of linux they would blow the doors off all other linux companies.
A few of many things to ponder.
Ever seince SuSE version 7.1, SuSE has decided to become little money hungry > bastards and they no longer have the install ISO's on line, but they are available to paying > customers. BUT, belive me when I say this, SuSE would be more then happy to take down their > FTP server and all other mirrors. But they cant cuz Linus would have nothing to do with it. and the GPL will not allow it. Their says would be numbered if they pulled a stunt like that. So you can still get SuSE for free off the FTP server, BUT not in an install ISO form. You have have to download it package by package. And this is where they get really shitty about some things.
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