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Re: [SLE] Linux vs Windows
- From: Timothy R.Butler <tbutler@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 16:53:35 -0600
- Message-id: <E1648nT-0003S5-00@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> This is a really interesting discussion. Personally, I can't stand
> Publisher - it has the most awful interface I've ever seen, especially if
> you're trying to edit someone else's document. And I have even come across
> misguided individuals doing webpages with it! It either produces a page
Ack! Never do webpages in Publisher. :-)
> The only reason it is popular (IMHO) is that it was bundled with so many
> PCs, people started using it, they got used to the interface, and then they
> find other interfaces "difficult" (as one does). A far better app for the
Not for me at least. I *picked* Publisher when I was still in Windows,
because it simply did what I needed. I can pop out designs that make people
say "wow" (not trying to brag here) in just minutes on Publisher.
My purchased a different low end DTP for her home computer a while back and
nearly gave up on it. However, I talked her into getting Publisher, and now
she loves working on DTP again.
> I also think the points about the Office interface are related to the same
> phenomenon. You get an app, tussle around with the interface for a while,
> finally figure out how it works, and then everything else seems to have a
> "weird" interface. I came to Word via WordStar (sadly no longer in
> existence) and various wps on other platforms, and believe me, Word's
> "intuitive" interface is anything but. (Aside: I've never yet come across
I might argue here again. Please show me a modern word processor that you
can set someone in front of (who has never used it) and can learn it as fast
as Word. Honestly, I started out with WordPerfect, and HATED it. But I
started using Word, and things seemed much better. :-)
Remember, I'm saying this all as a person who grubles constantly when I'm
stuck in Windows for more than a few moments. I am no fan of Microsoft, yet
they do do somethings right.
> So I think that even if Office competitors implement a sizeable subset of
> the features, many Office users will continue to use Office. The reason is
> that human beings take the line of least resistance, and here that means
> "keep using the apps I'm used to unless something else (stability of
> platform, cost of licenses, lack of interoperability, etc) forces me to
> relearn some of what I already know." This will be rationalised as Office
> has better features, a more intuitive interface, etc than other office
> suites, but that isn't the real reason.
You may have a point, but first show me a decent word processor with a more
intuitive interface, that can do the kinda of things Word can do. Mail Merge?
Grammer Checking? Light Publishing? A dozen different ways to format
> well use that one". They've used the same approach with Winsock (remember
> Trumpet, anyone?),
Well that one only makes sense. If Microsoft *didn't* integrate winsock, I
can just hear all of us sneering right now at how Microsoft's OS doesn't even
have built in internet connectivity! Seriously, every modern OS has an IP
stack built in.
> the browser,
Uhhhh, are you saying KDE shouldn't have Konqueror?
> connection sharing, etc, and they're now
> doing the same with sound software and CD-burning software.
I agree with these, especially the latter two.
> added a couple of missing components .... well, Geoff might think that the
> inital package was pretty good, but he would be starting to have his doubts
> about the phrase "long-term value for money".
I'm with you fully here.
> My apologies for departing from the initial "Publisher" point, and I have
> no hassle with anyone using that or other MS sw (I've been there myself for
> the four years prior to this one), but I would say that whether or not
> Office gets replaced on people's desktops will have very little to do with
Trust me, if StarOffice or any other Linux wp or DTP program was 85% as
good as Microsoft Word and Publisher, I wouldn't complain. Granted the WPS's
are approaching that realm, but DTP is still a vacuum in Linux.
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