Having got hold of 2.4.8 from the SuSE website (usual place), I tried to compile it. All went pretty much OK; but on reboot, ALSA doesn't want to know the sound card (SB Live 1024, so not uncommon). The card was originally added via Yast2 during the 7.2 install; it set it up OK and worked with 2.4.4-4GB as snd-card-0. On any recompile (either 2.4.4-4 or 2.4.8) it doesn't seem to want to know any more; the only way I can get sound to work OK is to use kernel modules instead; loading soundcore.o and emu10k1.o from boot.local instead. Which works, but does rather defeat the whole point of ALSA being there... Anyone else seen something like this, and if so, how did you get around it? (couldn't see anything obvious in /etc/initd/rc5.d that might have been left out; can't see anything in the SDB or the SLE archives either...) cheers, Gideon.