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Fwd: Re: Ballmer: Linux is a cancer.
- From: "Fred A. Miller" <fm@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 15:07:00 -0400
- Message-id: <0106011506120F.04920@cups-2>
GOOD response from Joe Barr.
Fred
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Subject: Re: [Am-info] Ballmer: Linux is a cancer
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 13:34:00 -0500
From: Joe Barr <warthawg@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: sujal@xxxxxxxxx, AM-Info List <am-info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Ballmer tells three enormous and deliberate lies in his
response to the question on Linux.
1. He claims open source code is not available to commerical firms.
This less than a week after the removal of a page on the MS web site
touting their use of GPLd code in an experimental web server.
2. He claims that if you use open source code, you have to make all
of your code open source.
Linux is literally covered with proprietary code in applications and
tools. His claim is absurd. Even if you narrow it down to GPL'd code,
you are free to use it in any manner you wish. ONLY if you modify it
and redistribute it are you required to license the derivative work
under the GPL. If you simply use it, you are not required to do
anything at all.
3. He claims that Linux is a cancer and attaches itself in an
intellectual property sense to everything it touches. Same lie as
above in a little more immflamatory language.
Ballmer probably pissed his pants when he heard the question, and
in MS exec knee-jerk fashion rattled off the three biggest lies he
could think of.
On Fri, 01 Jun 2001 14:10:38 -0400
Sujal Shah <sujal@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Interview in the Chicago Sun-Times.
>
> http://www.suntimes.com/output/tech/cst-fin-micro01.html
>
> He would be a little (tiny) bit more truthful replacing Open Source
> with GPL'd (the BSD license is an Open Source license and allows
> companies to close-source derived software). Of course, I run closed
> source software on my Linux boxes, and work on closed-source software
> at work on my workstation (also running linux). So, he's patently
> lying.
>
> But that's not something new.
>
> Sujal
>
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Fred
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Subject: Re: [Am-info] Ballmer: Linux is a cancer
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 13:34:00 -0500
From: Joe Barr <warthawg@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: sujal@xxxxxxxxx, AM-Info List <am-info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Ballmer tells three enormous and deliberate lies in his
response to the question on Linux.
1. He claims open source code is not available to commerical firms.
This less than a week after the removal of a page on the MS web site
touting their use of GPLd code in an experimental web server.
2. He claims that if you use open source code, you have to make all
of your code open source.
Linux is literally covered with proprietary code in applications and
tools. His claim is absurd. Even if you narrow it down to GPL'd code,
you are free to use it in any manner you wish. ONLY if you modify it
and redistribute it are you required to license the derivative work
under the GPL. If you simply use it, you are not required to do
anything at all.
3. He claims that Linux is a cancer and attaches itself in an
intellectual property sense to everything it touches. Same lie as
above in a little more immflamatory language.
Ballmer probably pissed his pants when he heard the question, and
in MS exec knee-jerk fashion rattled off the three biggest lies he
could think of.
On Fri, 01 Jun 2001 14:10:38 -0400
Sujal Shah <sujal@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Interview in the Chicago Sun-Times.
>
> http://www.suntimes.com/output/tech/cst-fin-micro01.html
>
> He would be a little (tiny) bit more truthful replacing Open Source
> with GPL'd (the BSD license is an Open Source license and allows
> companies to close-source derived software). Of course, I run closed
> source software on my Linux boxes, and work on closed-source software
> at work on my workstation (also running linux). So, he's patently
> lying.
>
> But that's not something new.
>
> Sujal
>
> _______________________________________________
> Am-info mailing list
> Am-info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> http://lists.essential.org/mailman/listinfo/am-info
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| Joe Barr warthawg@xxxxxxxxxxxx |
| Freelance journalist: free/open source software |
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----/ / _ Fred A. Miller
---/ / (_)__ __ ____ __ Systems Administrator
--/ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / Cornell Univ. Press Services
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