Well, I got Tribes2 today and I am very, very impress with Loki's latest game. After installing various Wintendo games over the last couple weeks..I can safely say this was the easiest game I have installed. After it put the loki updater and uninstaller onto the system..it then did the base install. When it finished with this it fired off the updater and updated my install to the newest patch level. This IS slick. If Loki could get more deals like this..and bring out games of this caliber EVERTIME..man..I'm sold. BTW..it doesn't come in a box...ehhehe...it comes in a DVD case. Save the trees and look cool too. The Windows games never come in anything but a crappy box..Q3A metal tin and no this. Rock! Regards, -- Ben Rosenberg mailto:ben@whack.org ----- If two men agree on everything, you can be sure that only one of them is doing the thinking.