Well It didn't work The new kernal with the new tools booted, couldn't load any modules and then gave me a login prompt. The prompt authenicated me, and then dumped me back into a login prompt.....why - I have no idea. /var/log/messages said nothing. This is what sucks about suse. Why should upgradiong the kernel be so damn hard. make dep make bzlilo make modules make modules_install FINISH If the kernel says I need new utils-linux .... document on the site how to do this damn upgrade!! Ruben -- Brooklyn Linux Solutions http://www.mrbrklyn.com http://www.brooklynonline.com 1-718-382-5752 -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq and the archives at http://lists.suse.com -- Brooklyn Linux Solutions http://www.mrbrklyn.com http://www.brooklynonline.com 1-718-382-5752 -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq and the archives at http://lists.suse.com -- Brooklyn Linux Solutions http://www.mrbrklyn.com http://www.brooklynonline.com 1-718-382-5752